▲ 79 ▼ ‘It’s like a death sentence’ says British widow facing deportation from Sweden (www.theguardian.com) submitted 1 month ago by Sunshine@lemmy.ca to c/world 54 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] Sunshine@lemmy.ca [S] 11 points 1 month ago (17 children) For what exactly? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 17 child comments replies: [–] justOnePersistentKbinPlease@fedia.io 16 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) It is your responsibility to know the laws of any country you visit, let alone move to. Edit: while they are supposed to have nebulous rights to stay in the EU, most EU countries have not moved on that, and they would be in a weird limbo where they were allowed to stay(according to the agreement), but also not vote or work. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Natanael@infosec.pub 6 points 1 month ago Brexit rules. Loss of EU membership means loss of freedom of movement. permalink fedilink source parent [–] sepiroth154@feddit.nl 7 points 1 month ago (14 children) Not being aware of the local law. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 14 child comments replies: [–] BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago (1 child) After Brexit, Britons and EU citizens who had exercised those free movement rights were told their rights to remain in their host country would be guaranteed in the legally binding withdrawal agreement. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/sep/20/british-man-torn-from-swedish-wife-and-home permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 month ago Lol what? No we were absolutely not told that. We could apply to remain, and during that time wouldn't get kicked out. And that was granted just fine. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Sunshine@lemmy.ca [S] 18 points 1 month ago* (11 children) Victimblaming. Sweden is among 13 countries, along with the UK, that opted for a “constitutive” system requiring citizens to formally apply to remain in the country. Others, like Spain, opted for a less onerous “declaratory” system requiring registration in the country, something many Britons would already have done at their town hall. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 11 child comments replies: [–] sepiroth154@feddit.nl 21 points 1 month ago (10 children) Being ignorant of the law doesn't work in any jurisdiction. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] Sunshine@lemmy.ca [S] 3 points 1 month ago (9 children) Okay, spiteful tankie. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [–] sepiroth154@feddit.nl 21 points 1 month ago (5 children) She's wealthy and connected enough to have known better. Also throwing names is childish. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] Sunshine@lemmy.ca [S] 8 points 1 month ago (4 children) But campaigners at Brits in Sweden say countless British citizens were either given no information or incorrect information about what to do after Brexit by the authorities. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 month ago So? Do you always get actively informed when laws change? Brexit was hardly stealthy. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Natanael@infosec.pub 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) This is the British governments fault primarily. It was the British government's responsibility to take care of their citizens and negotiate something. The remainder lies with the just ousted right wing Swedish government permalink fedilink source parent [–] Miaou@jlai.lu 2 points 1 month ago "White people forget to check their privileges" is clearly a less sensational headline permalink fedilink source parent [–] sepiroth154@feddit.nl 2 points 1 month ago* We do not single out groups of people in Europe, last time we did that it ended up bad. Thats why they can't. permalink fedilink source parent [+] catsandcatsandcats@beehaw.org 8 points 1 month ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] sepiroth154@feddit.nl 4 points 1 month ago Because I am technically also arguing in support of authoritarian states. But I'm actually arguing against well off people who whine at their first inconvenience they caused themselves. permalink fedilink source parent [–] AviAdi@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago Wow what a rebuttal permalink fedilink source parent
[–] justOnePersistentKbinPlease@fedia.io 16 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) It is your responsibility to know the laws of any country you visit, let alone move to. Edit: while they are supposed to have nebulous rights to stay in the EU, most EU countries have not moved on that, and they would be in a weird limbo where they were allowed to stay(according to the agreement), but also not vote or work. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Natanael@infosec.pub 6 points 1 month ago Brexit rules. Loss of EU membership means loss of freedom of movement. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] sepiroth154@feddit.nl 7 points 1 month ago (14 children) Not being aware of the local law. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 14 child comments replies: [–] BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago (1 child) After Brexit, Britons and EU citizens who had exercised those free movement rights were told their rights to remain in their host country would be guaranteed in the legally binding withdrawal agreement. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/sep/20/british-man-torn-from-swedish-wife-and-home permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 month ago Lol what? No we were absolutely not told that. We could apply to remain, and during that time wouldn't get kicked out. And that was granted just fine. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Sunshine@lemmy.ca [S] 18 points 1 month ago* (11 children) Victimblaming. Sweden is among 13 countries, along with the UK, that opted for a “constitutive” system requiring citizens to formally apply to remain in the country. Others, like Spain, opted for a less onerous “declaratory” system requiring registration in the country, something many Britons would already have done at their town hall. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 11 child comments replies: [–] sepiroth154@feddit.nl 21 points 1 month ago (10 children) Being ignorant of the law doesn't work in any jurisdiction. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] Sunshine@lemmy.ca [S] 3 points 1 month ago (9 children) Okay, spiteful tankie. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [–] sepiroth154@feddit.nl 21 points 1 month ago (5 children) She's wealthy and connected enough to have known better. Also throwing names is childish. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] Sunshine@lemmy.ca [S] 8 points 1 month ago (4 children) But campaigners at Brits in Sweden say countless British citizens were either given no information or incorrect information about what to do after Brexit by the authorities. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 month ago So? Do you always get actively informed when laws change? Brexit was hardly stealthy. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Natanael@infosec.pub 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) This is the British governments fault primarily. It was the British government's responsibility to take care of their citizens and negotiate something. The remainder lies with the just ousted right wing Swedish government permalink fedilink source parent [–] Miaou@jlai.lu 2 points 1 month ago "White people forget to check their privileges" is clearly a less sensational headline permalink fedilink source parent [–] sepiroth154@feddit.nl 2 points 1 month ago* We do not single out groups of people in Europe, last time we did that it ended up bad. Thats why they can't. permalink fedilink source parent [+] catsandcatsandcats@beehaw.org 8 points 1 month ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] sepiroth154@feddit.nl 4 points 1 month ago Because I am technically also arguing in support of authoritarian states. But I'm actually arguing against well off people who whine at their first inconvenience they caused themselves. permalink fedilink source parent [–] AviAdi@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago Wow what a rebuttal permalink fedilink source parent
[–] BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago (1 child) After Brexit, Britons and EU citizens who had exercised those free movement rights were told their rights to remain in their host country would be guaranteed in the legally binding withdrawal agreement. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/sep/20/british-man-torn-from-swedish-wife-and-home permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 month ago Lol what? No we were absolutely not told that. We could apply to remain, and during that time wouldn't get kicked out. And that was granted just fine. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 month ago Lol what? No we were absolutely not told that. We could apply to remain, and during that time wouldn't get kicked out. And that was granted just fine. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Sunshine@lemmy.ca [S] 18 points 1 month ago* (11 children) Victimblaming. Sweden is among 13 countries, along with the UK, that opted for a “constitutive” system requiring citizens to formally apply to remain in the country. Others, like Spain, opted for a less onerous “declaratory” system requiring registration in the country, something many Britons would already have done at their town hall. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 11 child comments replies: [–] sepiroth154@feddit.nl 21 points 1 month ago (10 children) Being ignorant of the law doesn't work in any jurisdiction. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] Sunshine@lemmy.ca [S] 3 points 1 month ago (9 children) Okay, spiteful tankie. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [–] sepiroth154@feddit.nl 21 points 1 month ago (5 children) She's wealthy and connected enough to have known better. Also throwing names is childish. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] Sunshine@lemmy.ca [S] 8 points 1 month ago (4 children) But campaigners at Brits in Sweden say countless British citizens were either given no information or incorrect information about what to do after Brexit by the authorities. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 month ago So? Do you always get actively informed when laws change? Brexit was hardly stealthy. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Natanael@infosec.pub 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) This is the British governments fault primarily. It was the British government's responsibility to take care of their citizens and negotiate something. The remainder lies with the just ousted right wing Swedish government permalink fedilink source parent [–] Miaou@jlai.lu 2 points 1 month ago "White people forget to check their privileges" is clearly a less sensational headline permalink fedilink source parent [–] sepiroth154@feddit.nl 2 points 1 month ago* We do not single out groups of people in Europe, last time we did that it ended up bad. Thats why they can't. permalink fedilink source parent [+] catsandcatsandcats@beehaw.org 8 points 1 month ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] sepiroth154@feddit.nl 4 points 1 month ago Because I am technically also arguing in support of authoritarian states. But I'm actually arguing against well off people who whine at their first inconvenience they caused themselves. permalink fedilink source parent [–] AviAdi@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago Wow what a rebuttal permalink fedilink source parent
[–] sepiroth154@feddit.nl 21 points 1 month ago (10 children) Being ignorant of the law doesn't work in any jurisdiction. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] Sunshine@lemmy.ca [S] 3 points 1 month ago (9 children) Okay, spiteful tankie. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [–] sepiroth154@feddit.nl 21 points 1 month ago (5 children) She's wealthy and connected enough to have known better. Also throwing names is childish. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] Sunshine@lemmy.ca [S] 8 points 1 month ago (4 children) But campaigners at Brits in Sweden say countless British citizens were either given no information or incorrect information about what to do after Brexit by the authorities. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 month ago So? Do you always get actively informed when laws change? Brexit was hardly stealthy. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Natanael@infosec.pub 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) This is the British governments fault primarily. It was the British government's responsibility to take care of their citizens and negotiate something. The remainder lies with the just ousted right wing Swedish government permalink fedilink source parent [–] Miaou@jlai.lu 2 points 1 month ago "White people forget to check their privileges" is clearly a less sensational headline permalink fedilink source parent [–] sepiroth154@feddit.nl 2 points 1 month ago* We do not single out groups of people in Europe, last time we did that it ended up bad. Thats why they can't. permalink fedilink source parent [+] catsandcatsandcats@beehaw.org 8 points 1 month ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] sepiroth154@feddit.nl 4 points 1 month ago Because I am technically also arguing in support of authoritarian states. But I'm actually arguing against well off people who whine at their first inconvenience they caused themselves. permalink fedilink source parent [–] AviAdi@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago Wow what a rebuttal permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Sunshine@lemmy.ca [S] 3 points 1 month ago (9 children) Okay, spiteful tankie. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [–] sepiroth154@feddit.nl 21 points 1 month ago (5 children) She's wealthy and connected enough to have known better. Also throwing names is childish. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] Sunshine@lemmy.ca [S] 8 points 1 month ago (4 children) But campaigners at Brits in Sweden say countless British citizens were either given no information or incorrect information about what to do after Brexit by the authorities. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 month ago So? Do you always get actively informed when laws change? Brexit was hardly stealthy. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Natanael@infosec.pub 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) This is the British governments fault primarily. It was the British government's responsibility to take care of their citizens and negotiate something. The remainder lies with the just ousted right wing Swedish government permalink fedilink source parent [–] Miaou@jlai.lu 2 points 1 month ago "White people forget to check their privileges" is clearly a less sensational headline permalink fedilink source parent [–] sepiroth154@feddit.nl 2 points 1 month ago* We do not single out groups of people in Europe, last time we did that it ended up bad. Thats why they can't. permalink fedilink source parent [+] catsandcatsandcats@beehaw.org 8 points 1 month ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] sepiroth154@feddit.nl 4 points 1 month ago Because I am technically also arguing in support of authoritarian states. But I'm actually arguing against well off people who whine at their first inconvenience they caused themselves. permalink fedilink source parent [–] AviAdi@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago Wow what a rebuttal permalink fedilink source parent
[–] sepiroth154@feddit.nl 21 points 1 month ago (5 children) She's wealthy and connected enough to have known better. Also throwing names is childish. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] Sunshine@lemmy.ca [S] 8 points 1 month ago (4 children) But campaigners at Brits in Sweden say countless British citizens were either given no information or incorrect information about what to do after Brexit by the authorities. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 month ago So? Do you always get actively informed when laws change? Brexit was hardly stealthy. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Natanael@infosec.pub 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) This is the British governments fault primarily. It was the British government's responsibility to take care of their citizens and negotiate something. The remainder lies with the just ousted right wing Swedish government permalink fedilink source parent [–] Miaou@jlai.lu 2 points 1 month ago "White people forget to check their privileges" is clearly a less sensational headline permalink fedilink source parent [–] sepiroth154@feddit.nl 2 points 1 month ago* We do not single out groups of people in Europe, last time we did that it ended up bad. Thats why they can't. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Sunshine@lemmy.ca [S] 8 points 1 month ago (4 children) But campaigners at Brits in Sweden say countless British citizens were either given no information or incorrect information about what to do after Brexit by the authorities. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 month ago So? Do you always get actively informed when laws change? Brexit was hardly stealthy. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Natanael@infosec.pub 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) This is the British governments fault primarily. It was the British government's responsibility to take care of their citizens and negotiate something. The remainder lies with the just ousted right wing Swedish government permalink fedilink source parent [–] Miaou@jlai.lu 2 points 1 month ago "White people forget to check their privileges" is clearly a less sensational headline permalink fedilink source parent [–] sepiroth154@feddit.nl 2 points 1 month ago* We do not single out groups of people in Europe, last time we did that it ended up bad. Thats why they can't. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 month ago So? Do you always get actively informed when laws change? Brexit was hardly stealthy. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Natanael@infosec.pub 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) This is the British governments fault primarily. It was the British government's responsibility to take care of their citizens and negotiate something. The remainder lies with the just ousted right wing Swedish government permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Miaou@jlai.lu 2 points 1 month ago "White people forget to check their privileges" is clearly a less sensational headline permalink fedilink source parent
[–] sepiroth154@feddit.nl 2 points 1 month ago* We do not single out groups of people in Europe, last time we did that it ended up bad. Thats why they can't. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] catsandcatsandcats@beehaw.org 8 points 1 month ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] sepiroth154@feddit.nl 4 points 1 month ago Because I am technically also arguing in support of authoritarian states. But I'm actually arguing against well off people who whine at their first inconvenience they caused themselves. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] sepiroth154@feddit.nl 4 points 1 month ago Because I am technically also arguing in support of authoritarian states. But I'm actually arguing against well off people who whine at their first inconvenience they caused themselves. permalink fedilink source parent