I have a feeling NYC school test scores will get a lot higher under Mamdani. Reports suggests more tech doesn't mean better education. It just creates more distractions.
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I recently attended a parents night at my daughter's school where one of the teachers laid out the schools new AI policy and guidelines which were the result of at least a year of research. My favorite slide was the don't and do of AI under the new policy.
Don't: Use AI
Do: Not use AI
This school also generally limits the usage of technology. They do have laptops on hand, but they come out only for very specific subjects such as coding or robotics classes, both of which are optional classes.
This is right in line with my thinking. You don't teach math to a second grader by handing them a graphing calculator. You need to learn to do things manually first before you start letting the machines do it for you so you understand it
Why not at hs as well?
I doubt you can stop a high schooler from using AI if they wanted to.
I mean you can do something's like not allowing it's use on campus.
I guess I'm seeing it as just a critical period of mental development as the years before. Its probably the thing that has me the most worried about the whole thing is the drop in any kind of thinking skills among the general population.
I agree with you. Was just playing advocate. I do think if they ban it from HS that will impact kids way of using it, in a good way.
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I just see no way in which the injection of AI into an already crumbling education results in anything resembling "good outcomes".
You gotta learn to think. It takes time and effort and dedicated practice. And you need space, time and an environment for that.
As bad as this is for grown adults, it seems orders of magnitude worse for kids/ young adults.
has me the most worried about the whole thing is the drop in any kind of thinking skills among the general population.
Sounds like the general population would need to use more AI.
As problematic as AI is, these students are going to live in a world where it exists. I would much rather live around people who were taught how to use it well and as a tool to aid thinking and understanding rather than a total replacement to thinking. I'm sure it will take years of refining how we teach high schoolers to live around it to get good results, but we have to start somewhere.
I don't think the two things are compatible.
They're not compatible, under the current paradigms. You're not wrong, imo.
But neither is the commenter you're replying to.
It ain't going away, and as it is (in every respect from function to marketing to access) 'AI' is currently absolutely poisonous for mental development, no matter the age.
But that's not inherently married to the way it will always be used.
Imo, the ban should be in place all the way in K-12, for no less than 5 years, and some resources devoted to enable school districts to engage the necessary mechanisms to assess how to marry the use of AI technology into educational use, with an actual thorough process in place to assess how and if it can be done in a manner beneficial to educational goals.
It's not enough to have a techbro declare it the best thing in the world for learning, a child development psychologist declare it the worst thing to exist, and an education expert sitting between them looking anguished.
They need to all be locked in the same room, metaphorically speaking, and honestly arrive at a form that is meaningfully impactful to student outcomes (if one can be found), before it's something that schools should attempt to use within the curriculum.
Nah, I disagree. Let's stop normalizing this "AI is here to stay, embrace it or get left behind" rhetoric. That argument only serves the people pushing the technology.
We don't need AI, and I haven't seen a compelling argument for supporting it yet. As far as I'm concerned, the sooner this bubble pops, the better.
No, make it though high school, that’s just as important.
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