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[–] 17 points 2 months ago (5 children)

This is what happens naturally when elected leaders ignore who they are supposed to represent. People don't get this angry without a reason. They are unheard.

There's a very simple thing the leaders need to do. Listen and act in their constituents interests.

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  • [–] 0 points 2 months ago (4 children)

    Doesn’t matter which way they vote, they’re getting attacked. When your populace is split, what are you supposed to do?

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  • [–] 10 points 2 months ago (3 children)

    Who's sending them death threats for not persuing data centers projects? Elon Musk?

    More generally, a politician who upsets their voters this much is a failed politician. Even when the populace is split, you can find things that they agree on and work towards that.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago (2 children)

    It’s in the article. In fact, that’s what the article is about.

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  • [–] 5 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    The article gives only one example that I can find, and it reeks of "the opposition is threatening us and so we should ignore them". Their example of the threats against the Marshall City Council members was dropped because the police "did not identify sufficient evidence" that a crime had been committed.

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    [–] 79 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    Just as managers and owners agreed to the compromise of unions in order to prevent the workers from dragging them from their homes and setting the factory on fire with them inside, governments should feel the fear of what happens when you treat people like shit and ignore their complaints.

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  • [–] 45 points 2 months ago

    A lot of people died to get the pittances we got from the ownership class. Decades of

    • labor: we want to paid in real money, and work less than 12 hours a day 6 days a week
    • owner: no
    • labor: then we're going on strike
    • owner, to the state: HELP
    • the state: sends police and troops to do violence to labor

    The idea that peacefully asking for stuff on its own is effective is largely ahistorical. A happy myth sold by the people who would be receiving violence.

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  • [–] 34 points 2 months ago

    The only government that works for the people is a government that is afraid of the people

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  • [–] 66 points 2 months ago (10 children)

    Ya know.....everyone always tries to say violence isn't the answer. It's things like this that tells me those people are stupid. Violence is absolutely the answer.

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  • [–] 31 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    There are better answers. But the last 18 months have taught me that there is no way in hell the billionaire class will ever give up any of their wealth. Even when it in everyone's best interest.

    If they won't play nice, don't expect the response to be nice either. Violence still isn't necessary, but they should be afraid!

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  • [–] 3 points 2 months ago* (1 child)

    I think they mean violence isn't the first thing you reach for. There's a real problem in the world, and especially in the US, where the moment someone is even moderately upset about something they immediately start pulling weapons.

    You should always attempt to negotiate and de-escalate the situation. Violence is something you should reach for only after it becomes abundantly evident that they are not prepared to meet you halfway or are just obviously corrupt, like is the case here.

    But you never know, some of the officials may just be really stupid and have not thought about the project beyond the immediate benefits, and haven't thought about/don't know about the downside.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago

    There's a real problem in the world, and especially in the US, where the moment someone is even moderately upset about something they immediately start pulling weapons.

    Honestly this isnt true we have ignored all the underlying systemic issues that put these people into pressure cookers ready to pop. Erosion of education left them unable to interpret the world beyond force fed propaganda pointing blame on those that would be allies instead of being targeted as enemies/shouldering the blame. We have never provided proper health care that could aid in reducing mental and physical trauma. We have ignored others needs for safe housing and secure food sources, which means people are stuck in fight or flight. Just to name a few common systemic issues. Sure you may see one specific moderate problem that in isolation shouldn't create the reactions you see, but people today are like a superheated liquid just waiting for the smallest of disturbances to set them off.

    Most of these people have never even been met part way because the system ensures they have no means to come to the table and ensures they are constantly pitted against each other so no class conscience can form.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    I always see it like a game of tug of way. With 2 sides. there needs to be tension. If there is no pull at one of the sides then the other side just pull all the rope. These situations need a level of tension.

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  • [–] 28 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    I wonder how many government officials, local and state, have been paid off to ignore public input, know they aren't getting reelected, but don't care because they've gotten enough to retire.

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  • [–] 22 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    That's evidentially the only way, since the councils just don't care

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  • [–] 57 points 2 months ago

    Good. Scare the fuck out of them.

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  • [–] 8 points 2 months ago

    Speak softly (peacefully protest) and carry a big stick (riot).

    Martin Luther King and Malcolm X.

    You need both.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 months ago*

    I really need to get into local government because there seems to be a lot of bribes going around and I need a new computer.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago

    Official's income are bribes, they don't work for the voters, just do enough for getting reelected.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago

    Thats just awful.

    /s

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