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[–] 11 points 2 months ago (13 children)

The press would do that.

Think about when the world woke up to the concentration camps. It wasn’t until the war was over.

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  • [–] 6 points 2 months ago (12 children)

    And that is different from Social Media of today in what way?

    I trust the AP a hell of a lot more than anything I see on Youtube or Facebook. Fuck, when it comes down to it I trust Fox News more than any social media outlet, mostly because I know Fox News is propaganda.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago (9 children)

    Social media is much more likely to be full of information that is NOT true than to be compltely devoid of information that IS true.

    But to your point: that is why Israel now controls TikTok in the United States.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago (6 children)

    yeah. I do find they don't put much into misinformation. I think its because all they need is the headline since most people do not read much more.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago (5 children)

    I think its because all they need is the headline since most people do not read much more.

    Tell me about it. I currently made a post and am getting hammered by morons who clearly only read the title, and not even very thoughfully at that.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago (4 children)

    did you post more than a title and link?

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    why? sounds like you did your part. if you had not given any more context then yeah its expected to get that but if you did then its on them to read the post. its understandable someone does not go off to another website but if the info is where they are hanging out then its on them.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    well, it's a little bit of a joke--i regret it because so many people didn't read it.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago

    ah. yeah. that happens. I put a long explanation edit to a small comment when I realized it was being taken differently than it was in my head. internets just like that. its hard to get a feel especially when we are all bouncing around.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago (1 child)

    His point was “it is up to the audience whether or not they trust the press.”

    And that is 100% the case when it comes to social media.

    Social Media is much more like to be full of information that is not true that to be completely devoid of information of is true.

    That is a totally different topic and completely wrong.

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    [–] 10 points 2 months ago

    You know newspapers, letters, the radio, and movies existed back then, right? The press was around?

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  • [–] 9 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 child)

    Two or three components, the military had press with them.

    Also, exploiting war crimes by the enemy for propaganda reasons was very important for morale, so it was a high priority thing to have writers and camera people available to document things.

    Regarding distribution, specifically the Germans put the info into weekly cinema productions, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Die_Deutsche_Wochenschau But there was also radio and newspapers.

    Ultimately it depended on either the military or reporters uncovering it and then reporting it.

    Japan did establish Unit 731

    Not sure how that was in that case.

    edit:

    I actually forgot something crucial: There was censorship. The military opened every single letter that came from or was sent to theaters of war. They would let things go through or censor them, depending on whether they deemed something either bad for political or military reasons.

    So in many cases there was NO way to get specific news back home.

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  • [–] 9 points 2 months ago (3 children)

    Will they had cameras and no real way to easily fake the photographs. It also didn't help the Nazis that they took meticulous records of their cruelty, that was probably a bad idea.

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  • [–] 0 points 2 months ago* (2 children)

    Faking photographs had been a thing for nearly 100 years by that point.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    Can you provide examples because as far as I'm where photographic proof was pretty much capturing reality that point and no one thought different.

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  • [–] 7 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

    There's multiple sources mentioned, but the very brave Witold Pilecki actually infiltrated Auschwitz to get information out to the Polish resistance.

    And then then broke out again.

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  • [–] 10 points 2 months ago* (6 children)

    … that was only heard from word of mouth or tabloids (newspapers).

    I think your question is one of perception.

    People trusted “tabloids” (newspapers) back then. They were respected institutions, generally. Public payed attention to investigative journalists, and that’s how stuff got out.

    They read news. From newspapers. This was normal.

    Facebook, Instagram, TikTok, Reddit or Twitter (X)

    …And these kind of took over from sheer engagement, not necessarily reliability.

    TBH, if someone on X told me the sky is blue, I’d still be skeptical. Hence I’m the opposite of you, I suppose: I find it wild that these artificial spaces have become the world’s de-facto news feed over professional journalism.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 months ago* (5 children)

    Does any of that make social media any better?

    It’s the reason why they would prefer a first hand encounter from someone via social media without the narrative being twisted.

    This is the lie social media sells.

    Nothing is vetted. There's no standard of information hygiene on social media. Anything posted could be a misunderstanding, or fabricated, or deliberate clickbait propaganda.

    In fact, that's exactly what engages the algorithms; its why modern social media is such a cesspool, because clickbait is easier to produce and more engaging than professional journalism, and the algorithm boosts that garbage to everyone.


    But I'm not in this thread to argue this thoroughly.

    Frankly, if you came to Lemmy with the belief that social media (especially corporate social media) is more reliable than news outlets... I don't know what to tell you.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago (4 children)

    Social media is full of crap due to AI generated content and toxic people

    FTFY

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  • [–] 0 points 2 months ago (3 children)

    Yes that was a tangent...

    My only point is that social media is toxic period and you cannot blame it on just AI or on just certain people. It brings out the worst in people. If I were benevolent dictator I would ban it entirely but I'm not so I'm not advocating for that since I know it's not realistic.

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