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[–] 21 points 2 months ago (1 child)

just gonna post the same comment I made last time this was posted:

the lemmyworlds and their orbiters are gonna be upset about this one

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  • [–] 34 points 2 months ago (3 children)

    You can identify the liberals in this thread because they dislike this, but can’t provide a single credible argument against it.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago (1 child)

    Against what? To say this meme is shit-tier is generous. I for one wish the Palestinians had been able to destroy Israel decades ago. I mean, Israeli soldiers only shoot children and old women in the back. They piss their pants and cry if anyone shoots back.

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  • [–] 9 points 2 months ago

    Violence is not the answer. Violence is the question. The answer is "Yes"

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  • [–] 18 points 2 months ago

    Did you open a history book in your life? Violence is always the answer

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  • [–] 11 points 2 months ago*

    ❌️ "Violence is morally bad"

    ❌️ "Violence is morally good"

    ✅️ "Morality isn't real and violence simply Is."

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  • [–] 4 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    Sad thing is that Ukraine wouldn't have gotten nearly as much support if it looked like they had no chance of winning, or at least resisting.

    I think the diplomatic logic is what's the point in supporting a loser - your support doesn't change anything and when they lose you're on the winners shit list. If you support a winner then you may have a beneficial relationship in the future.

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  • [–] 5 points 2 months ago

    Ukraine never had a chance to win militarily, the plan was to strangle Russia by sanctions and it had the chance of succeeding, just the USA intelligence fucked up (not the first not last time, look: Iran) and did not noticed or underestimated Russia efforts to diversify its exports, and global south, mainly China and India, not wanting to be next ones on the US empire chopping block.

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  • [–] 9 points 2 months ago (6 children)

    Oh this also applies when pointing out Ukrainian attacks on world food supplies!

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  • [–] 4 points 2 months ago (5 children)
  • [–] 9 points 2 months ago (4 children)

    https://quokk.au/comment/5587173

    https://www.reuters.com/world/drones-hit-residential-buildings-russias-black-sea-port-novorossiysk-mayor-says-2026-08-12/

    https://www.reuters.com/world/russias-novorossiysk-grain-terminal-halts-operations-after-ukrainian-drone-2026-08-12/

    Russia is the world's ​largest wheat exporter and most of those exports are shipped via its Black Sea ​ports like Novorossiysk. Russia's main grain lobby group warned last month that Ukrainian ⁠drone attacks could shut down grain exports via the Black Sea in the near future, ​pushing up prices and causing hunger in Africa and the Middle East.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago (3 children)

    Ukraine is also a significant wheat exporter and invading it in a war of aggression didn't really help with that tbh:

    Remember the wheat shortage in Northern Africa that almost turned into a famine in 2022... yeah. Maybe we should blame the side that started the war more than the side that is defending against an aggressor, even if the latter uses some shady tactics, like targeting non-military targets. It's not like the other side were above that.

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  • [–] 7 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    It's still disgusting to see people celebrating more shortage and supply issues.

    Along with those who instantly insult you when pointing out maybe food supply methods shouldn't be targeted in this day an age, especially when it's not what's feeding the country being fought.

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  • [–] -2 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    But it’s bankrolling the addression. I guess Ukraine needs every target it can find in a world where Europe buys russian oil and gas for more eurodollars than what they use to support Ukraines effort.

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  • [–] 5 points 2 months ago

    But it’s bankrolling the addression. I guess Ukraine needs every target it can find in a world where Europe buys russian oil and gas for more eurodollars than what they use to support Ukraines effort.

    All this is saying is that it's fine for Ukraine to cause world food shortages and target anything in Russia including civilian infrastructure.

    At the same time the world needs to cut off the United States but won't do that either. Even though they won't it doesn't give others the justification to bomb food sources. Well unless they are Israel

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