Upstream images vs bazzite: https://github.com/ublue-os/countme/blob/main/growth_upstream_with_bazzite.svg

My prediction: bazzite may have more installs than Fedora KDE by the end of the year.

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[–] 38 points 3 months ago (3 children)

"wHy NoT jUsT uSe fEdOra?" or "iTs LInuX for PeOple ThAt dOnT kNoW HoW to UsE LiNuX"

shut up.

it's an easy and straight forward introduction to linux OR simply an easy to install distro for people who simply want to game and not tinker.

I have my main machine as a dual partition. my main daily driver is FreeBSD. for gaming my other partition is Bazzite and that's all it's for. gaming. I don't want to install fedora and do more tinkering. I just need a distro that I install and forget about so I can open steam and play something. that's it. Bazzite achieves that for me.

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  • [–] 22 points 3 months ago

    Yup! I've been running Linux on my machines in some way or another for 20 years. I've worked as a systems administrator and in ops teams. So I'm not a Linux beginner, and I'm not afraid of a shell.

    But I play steam games online with friends. I had a Windows 10 PC in my house specifically to be the gaming PC, I would turn it on, play a game, then turn it off. I didn't do anything else with the machine, but when I was running it I wasn't at work, I wasn't tinkering, I was relaxing.

    So anyway Microsoft botched Windows 11, big surprise, and people were talking about the Linux gaming revolution, and I was like "Hot Damn, if there's a Linux gaming revolution I want to be part of it!", so I installed Bazzite and... yup. I'm part of it.

    I haven't had a single issue since, at least with my machine and the games my friends play. I've been able to basically treat the system like it's a console. I boot it, navigate it with a controller, then I turn it off. Delightful!

    So thanks to everyone involved in making it a great experience!

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  • [–] 12 points 3 months ago

    I daily drive bazzite

    I just treat it like an atomic distro that happens to be good for gaming

    I use it for development and other general use cases

    I can use disposable distroboxes without worrying about updating or breaking my base system it's nice

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  • [–] 8 points 3 months ago

    Exactly. I do the same thing.

    I even put bazzite with KDE on my mothers computer because she started complaining about windows being slow and seeing ads on her start menu. My mother isn't very tech saavy, but bazzite was perfect for her use case and it just works. So far no complaints at all in about 6 months.

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  • [–] 14 points 3 months ago

    My daughter's computer programming classes (Year/Grade 11) use Bazzite. Asked her teachers about the choice, and their selling point was old/low end laptops would run it - making it easier for parents cost wise. A nice change from previous years needing Windows or Chromebook.

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  • [–] 7 points 3 months ago

    My experience with Bazzite was good but far from perfect. It worked out of the box, but was really slow compared to a Fedora Kinoite installed on a lower-spec laptop. Then I have some issues with flatpaks, but that was my fault for not understanding the system and being to used to a traditional linux (I'm coming from Slackware and Debian). But the last straw was the driver/kernel combo which broke some of my games: they work day 1, starts to crash after an update and no load at all after another upgrade. It was because my PC was really old and the hardware and the drivers are not supported anymore on the main kernel, so it's kind of a ME problem and one which I would have with other modern distros, but is also a problem that is harder to fix on Bazzite then other distros. Not impossible, but harder beyond what was my available patience.

    So I switched to Debian stable, everything works, my PC is faster then ever and I have no fear of broken updates.

    Bazzite is really great, but it's not for everyone.

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  • [–] 6 points 3 months ago

    This issue is keeping me from installing it on my dual-AMD gaming laptop. Bazzite installs fine but boots to a black screen because it can't find any displays.

    https://github.com/ValveSoftware/gamescope/issues/1469

    Does anyone know whether any progress has been made?

    SteamOS runs fine but is limited to only the iGPU (I think)

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  • [+] 1 point 3 months ago* (4 children)
  • [–] 2 points 3 months ago (3 children)

    This is one of the reasons I switched to Gentoo in early May. The way systemd managed that userfield situation wasn't nice at all. There is no reason to assume they will not do the same when asked to implement something worse. On the other hand, if they declined that change, it would mean they would most definitely decline a worse change. It is a great motivation to move away. There are way more reasons to move away from systemd, yet I wasn't aware before this happened, so it was also a trigger to do some deeper research on other technical concerns as well.

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  • [–] -1 points 3 months ago (20 children)

    will never get why not just use Fedora

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  • [–] 30 points 3 months ago

    Easy setup to be a HTPC with (usually) no fuss. Gaming focused to be a Steam Machine before the Steam Machine. I'm definitely looking at an immutable distro for my HTPC when I get around/afford to building one. I'm still hopeful that content providers will make native interfaces for both Steam Big Picture and KDE Plasma Big Screen.

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  • [–] 17 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    It's a fedora atomic distro. I like the isolation of apps and it being "almost impossible to break", and I want to give a serious try to what looks like the future of OSs.

    I tend to fiddle with the OS a lot, and this isolation limits me to flatpak and distrobox. It is a big limitation, but is perfect if you want to have a reproducible, isolated environments to develop code, but installing a system package is just too easy. Basically you need to spend time and know what you are doing to workaround this isolation, which makes sense to me.

    Bazzite tweaks everything to be gaming-focused (it also ships with steam preinstalled, for example). The other fedora atomics (silverblue/kinoite) are just more "generic" and not gaming-focused compared to bazzite, but they have a similar setup. I think bazzite just customizes them.

    You can also switch your entire system between them, with just a CLI command, with the ability to rollback too. So once you are in an atomic distro, you can switch without too much pain (in theory, at least).

    I really want to make it or fedora kinoite my main distro at some point

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  • [–] 7 points 3 months ago

    That's why I grabbed it. Gaming focused and immutability was interesting. I've been running Linux for a long time and honestly the immutable restrictions are really nice once you adjust to them. I do quite a lot of development on my bazzite box and I don't see any reason for anything else now.

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  • [–] 15 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

    If you plan on gaming on atomic Fedora it is basically just that with everything already preconfigured. I chose it because it came with Nvidia drivers, codecs, a bunch of tweaks and gaming utilities preinstalled (protonqt, distrobox, lutris, etc)

    You could install all of this on Fedora but IMO it's convenient to just have everything already configured for you if you were going to do it anyways

    I also like that it is atomic. Builds on the same image tag guarantee an identical build, which completely fixes the "works on my machine" problem when helping my friends. Two users on the same release will never have mismatched shared libraries or rogue packages, everyone on the same tag has the exact same environment. Plus, it makes rolling back bad upgrades incredibly easy

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  • [–] 26 points 3 months ago (9 children)

    Because if I want to game I dont want to troubleshoot. Bazzite just works and updates itself. I got other machines for experementing

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  • [+] -20 points 3 months ago (8 children)

    Bazzite will have you troubleshooting a lot more than regular fedora.

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  • [–] 13 points 3 months ago (5 children)

    I've been running Bazzite as my gaming PC for maybe a year now, and have done literally no configuring or troubleshooting since I installed it. I went to Desktop Mode to install Discord once, and otherwise have just treated it as a gaming console. Works great!

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  • [–] -2 points 3 months ago (4 children)

    Thats great but not unique to bazzite. The reason I say its extra troubleshooting required from bazzite is because gaming on linux for people requires configuring for certain games not everything is one click out of the box. When you need to do this on a normal distro its easy because you can do things the intended way by running whatever install script it has but on Bazzite you need to convert the instructions into bazzite specific steps. I see a ton of posts of Bazzite users getting stuck trying to do basic things because bazzite is blocking them I also see a ton of bazzite users having hardware issues because bazzite is blocking it and they dont know how to add a line in the config the bazzite way. Maybe this will get better once more people are using bazzite and more bazzite specific documentation and help threads are available online. unfortunately a lot of the troubleshooting is done in discord so its not searchable which really sucks.

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  • [–] 9 points 3 months ago (3 children)

    Bazzite is the only OS on my desktop, and I use it as a regular PC (meaning not game console), and everything works great.

    And no, I didn't have to tinker with anything to play.

    Unless you consider mounting drives in Steam the first time around, tinkering.

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  • [–] -1 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    Ok? You dont have to "tinker with anything to play" on other distros either.

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  • [–] 5 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    You said there's extra troubleshooting, which has not been my experience whatsoever.

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  • [–] -2 points 3 months ago

    Yeah but thats no different to a normal distro. Normal distros dont just randomly require troubleshooting they are pretty stable given that regressions are caught upstream and bazzite is based off fedora stable.

    The majority of linux troubleshooting is when you're trying to get something new working (like a game/software/device) and that will always be extra on non standard distros like bazzite. I would consider this changed once bazzite specific guides/scripts are commonplace.

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    [–] 9 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    It's insane to me that there is only 89k of us out there.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 months ago

    Does feel small, but I would say bordering on 100k is nothing to scoff at. This is an incremental battle, as seen from Valve's approach. Progressively chipping at it and you've suddenly cleared the major hurdles. I personally think Linux is ready now for a majority of users, so it's exciting times.

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