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The way this slider shows percentages (lemmy.world)
submitted 4 months ago by to c/assholedesign@lemmy.world
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"Nobody knows basic math, they won't notice it"

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[–] 17 points 4 months ago (5 children)

welcome to humble bundle. ran by the guys suing steam for unfair business practices.

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago (4 children)

    What's unfair about steam for humble specifically?

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  • [–] 5 points 4 months ago (3 children)

    they sell steam keys and do pay-what-you want bundles, meaning they have a minimum they aren't willing to go under due to steam's 30% cut.

    also, this all started because humble was originally just the storefront for wolfire games, to sell lugaru and overgrowth, and they set it up because they thought steam's cut was too big. mind, this was in like 2009 so there weren't really any other big online retailers, but on the other hand steam didn't offer anything special at the time.

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  • [–] 4 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

    Oh, it's the 30% again. I thought steam doesn't take any cut from keys.

    Edit: Nevermind, they don't.

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  • [–] 4 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    the main thing is you can't sell keys for less than what they cost through the steam store. if you have a non-steam version of the game you can sell that at whatever you want but apparently valve has been... "discouraging" that as well. it's within their tos but there have been some underhanded tactics to stop it.

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago

    I'm not sure why the limit on steam keys is bad. Otherwise everyone could just undercut steam while paying them nothing and outsourcing the service cost to them.

    But trying to dictate prices for other platforms is actual blatant anti-competitive behaviour.

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    • [+] 18 points 4 months ago (1 child)
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  • [–] [S] 17 points 4 months ago

    each slider has the same max. The software house and the charity both go from 0 to 55.71, while humble goes from 23.88 to 73.59

    100% to charity

    100% to corporations

    Humble takes a minimum of 30% but the slider starts at a visual 10%

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    • [–] 5 points 4 months ago*

    The third slider is whacked. It's visually at 1/3 of the first slider, but worth about 1/2. That's manipulative UI design.

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    [–] 4 points 4 months ago (3 children)

    These aren't percents of a total - they are ratios relative to each other.

    For simplicity let's say teach bar has a Min of 0 and a Max of 100. NOTE that there are no units. Bar 1 is set to 100, bar 2 is set to 70, and bar 3 is set to 0. This is absolutely valid. What this means is "for every 100 units sent to 1, send 70 units to 2 and 0 units to 3". In this case you can assign currency as the units. "For every dollar sent to 1, send 70 cents to 2 and 0 cents to 3".

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  • [–] [S] 4 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    No it's more like this: humble takes a 30% fee, then for the remaining 70% the user can decide how to divide in three parts.

    So on this specific example, all of the three sliders go from 0 to 55.71, with humble that takes 23.88 in addition to the selected percentage.

    So, if the user decides to give 33,3% to each one, the dev takes 18.71, the charity takes 18.71 and humble takes 18.71+23.88 fee

    The sliders are purposely deceiving to pretend they are not taking the biggest slice of the pie

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  • [–] 0 points 4 months ago* (1 child)

    You are really picking at straws here to justify being mad. Most storefronts, Steam included, take 30%. Humble is also pretty transparent about how the money is divided up. When you attempt to adjust the Humble slider you will notice that part of the bar is grey. This is the fixed minimum cut that Humble has to take for operating expenses.

    Edit: typo

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  • [–] [S] 3 points 4 months ago

    I'm not saying that they can't have a profit. After all they need to pay marketing, cc fees, bother with scammers/chargebacks and so on. Doing like before the IGN acquisition where people could put zero was unfair. I am totally fine giving them a fair share.

    I'm saying that this slider is designed to be deceiving and pretend their share is minimal and not a third of that.

    Not to mention that 30% is the minimum fee.

    The default fee if the user doesn't change the slider is this:

    • 50% to the software house
    • 5% to charity
    • 45% to humble

    And in the slider it doesn't visually appear they take 45% but it looks like a 25% (I'm getting error 500 when uploading a screenshot)

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