I'm a big fan of machine learning. I'd say this project needs a lot more public scrutiny.

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[–] 11 points 4 months ago (5 children)

This article repeats the claim it's NZ's first datacentre, in the headline and in the article, but I think it might be the first AI one or the first of it's size. It's certainly not the first datacentre in NZ!

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  • [–] 5 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    It's just the typical quality of journalism. You can spot the factual errors because you know better: most people can't.

    They'll be parroting whatever marketing drivel the company's provided them.

    "NZ's first datacentre (of this scale | in this region | for this operator | dedicated to AI)"

    The journalist just drops the 'confusing bit'.

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  • [–] 3 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    Yeah I guess this has been a thing my whole life. I remember reading newspapers thinking every article I have background knowledge in is wrong in some way, so we really need to take articles about things we don't understand with a grain of salt as well.

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  • [–] 6 points 4 months ago

    Datagrid has approval to ... remove a nearby wetland, an Environment Southland regional council reports show.

    Great. Duck the environment so a Singaporean data center operator can get cheap electricity.

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    [–] 10 points 4 months ago (3 children)

    Its a tough situation for a lot of people. Many want to keep as much of their data on sovereign land and not utilize foreign infrastructure. Simultaneously for multiple reasons people don't want to build infrastructure.

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    [–] 2 points 4 months ago

    Thought the billionairs who build their doomsday bunkers there would be apposed to poisoning their own sacred land.

    I guess they still need data centers after civilization, or data centers are so unpopular that they have to consider having them in their own back yard.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago

    Don't do it NZ! The fellowship of the ring and the rest of middle earth didn't go through everything it did just for you to invite the Dark Lord back!

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (3 children)

    I have quite a few thoughts about this. If you use the internet, where do you think your web pages and content are served from? It’s a Datacenter (private or cloud, both Datacenters). If you’re going to consume it, you should also be prepared to have the infrastructure as part of your life too. I’m not talking that you need to live right next to the DC, but within the country isn’t that much of a stretch (especially with how small NZ is).

    Now that being said. If it’s a regular DC (private or cloud) that’s fine, but if it’s an AI DC, fuck it sideways with a cactus and get that shit out of there. We don’t need more AI and it just needs to go away.

    Edit: to anyone downvoting me, please tell me where you think that the people of New Zealand should get their (non-AI) content from and who should support the infrastructure for it?

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  • [–] 12 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    i'm afraid it's specifically an ai data centre 😮‍💨

    People living near the site of Aotearoa's first planned AI datacentre are calling for more transparency about the project, especially about how the centre’s huge electricity and water use and potential noise pollution could affect them.

    Singapore-based company Datagrid has secured approval to build a NZ$3.5bn (US$2bn) AI datacentre on a 49-hectare site in Makarewa, just north of Aotearoa's southern-most city, Invercargill. Construction is due to begin this year, with the centre becoming operational by 2028.

    Datagrid has approval to discharge air contaminants from up to 84 diesel back-up generators, to draw up to 604,800 litres of groundwater per day, discharge up to 5000 litres of treated wastewater a day and remove a nearby wetland, an Environment Southland regional council reports show.

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