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[–] 1 point 4 months ago

We should bin most competitive sports and craft novel ones that are less stupid.

Instead of trying to get women and trans peeps playing sports designed for and dominated by men, just make new games that have more inclusive rulesets from the get go.

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago

    Kids leagues should have three levels, all co-ed. Competitive is for parents and kids who play to win. Go get it. Casual is for parents and kids who play for the team building. And finally Recreational is for the kids who just want to play, and the parents who like seeing energy burned. This gives boys and girls who are less competitive a place to play, while preventing anyone from dominating a more relaxed league. I mean, they can try, but it won’t be a big accomplishment.

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    [–] 16 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    Which is of course the idea. All this transphobia bullshit is just an excuse to harass and control women.

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  • [–] 15 points 4 months ago

    May? it already has, is, and will. Bigots put people at risk. Harming others is their whole identity.

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  • [–] [S] 10 points 4 months ago (30 children)

    Yep, women are already enduring ridiculous scrutiny under thinly veiled transphobia they're calling "protection." Imane Khelif is a great example of how this is affecting women's ability to play professional sports.

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  • [+] -9 points 4 months ago (29 children)

    Wouldn't she still be able to compete in the men's leagues?

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  • [–] [S] 11 points 4 months ago (10 children)

    Did you miss the part where she's a woman?

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  • [+] -10 points 4 months ago (9 children)

    That classification isn't as clear cut as what you might have learned as a child

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  • [–] [S] 8 points 4 months ago (8 children)

    Oh, have you taken biology in university, too? Don't talk down to me when you didn't even read the entire article. The tests they supposedly used to verify her chromosomes were made up.

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  • [–] -2 points 4 months ago (7 children)

    Do you believe there are 2 genders and nothing in between?

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  • [–] [S] 2 points 4 months ago (6 children)

    No, but that has nothing to do with this boxer. If anything, her experience reinforces the headline of the article I posted.

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  • [–] -1 points 4 months ago (5 children)

    The fact there's more than just 2 genders has nothing to do with this boxer??

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  • [–] [S] 2 points 4 months ago (4 children)

    Did. You. Read. The. Wiki? She's a woman.

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  • [–] -1 points 4 months ago (3 children)

    Do you feel the IOC should gender by Wikipedia?

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  • [–] [S] 2 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    What are you arguing anymore? Asking me ridiculous questions isn't going to make your point any clearer.

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  • [–] -1 points 4 months ago* (1 child)

    Well in one post you seem to admit that gender is a spectrum and in the other you seem to cling to the idea that it's binary (and decided upon by Wikipedia)

    Don't you think these are exclusive?

    You saying that 'gender as a spectrum has nothing to do with the Imane Khelif case' sounds a lot more ridiculous to me than my questions lol

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  • [–] [S] 2 points 4 months ago

    The only reason you would think the gender spectrum matters here, and that wikipedia enforces a gender binary, is if you massively missread both the article, the wiki and the sources.

    I'm done arguing over nothing. You don't even have a point.

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  • [–] 4 points 4 months ago* (1 child)

    If we ignore the fact that she's not transgender: trans women tend to be on oestrogen, and on testosterone blockers. They can't compete with men the same way cis women can't.

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  • [–] -1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

    Why would you conflate her case with transgenderism?

    To answer you though: if a cis-man takes 'one' oestrogen and 'one' testosterone blocker, can a cis-woman compete with them? Or do you think it depends?

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  • [–] 6 points 4 months ago (14 children)
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    If she has Y chromosomes, she can

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    Athletes that are deemed to be male at birth, as evidenced by the presence of Y chromosome genetic material (the SRY gene) or with a difference of sexual development (DSD) where male androgenization occurs, will be eligible to compete in the male category.

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  • [–] 9 points 4 months ago (9 children)

    Imane was born a woman. She identifies as a woman. No one but a corrupt Russian judge has ever said otherwise. Which is telling.

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  • [+] -7 points 4 months ago (8 children)

    Ok but sports categories aren't about how one identifies

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  • [–] 5 points 4 months ago (5 children)

    Yeah they're about how an arbitrary organisation has decided to, again arbitrarily, split up the messy and complicated mess that is """"biological sex""""".

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  • [–] -2 points 4 months ago (4 children)

    But how do you propose they arbitrate without 'acting arbitrarily'?

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  • [–] 0 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    There's plenty of competitions without (much) arbitration. Not so much in boxing though

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  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    Then it's on you to suggest an non-arbitrary basis of arbitration, since it's so important to you.

    By the way, since you care so much about women's boxing, can you name three female boxers without googling? Or is this about something else?

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago (1 child)

    As I understand it: he can't. De la Chapelle syndrome implies he has the SRY gene

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  • [–] 3 points 4 months ago

    Pretty sure the entire population of the earth just really hates women

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