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It's going to take some sort of calamity to get utilities to secure their networks. I'm really surprised that it hasn't happened yet, tbh. There have been so many intrusions and a few really close calls already.
In my experience it is super location dependent. I've worked with municipalities who had shit locked down and others that made me think I was getting punked. All in Ontario.
I joined the industry in the early 2010s and it was a hot topic then too. This was when Stuxnet was in the news. ISA published Industrial Automation and Control Systems Security standards (ISA99) in 2002. It's not new.
I wonder how connected the folks who make decisions about utility cyber security are to each other. I learned almost everything I know about SCADA security practices via people I met through provincial wastewater industry associations and just letting them infodump lol. I don't know that any of the municipal SCADA people I worked with were members or participated. Maybe they are just trying to go at it alone vs collaborating and learning from each other. You don't know what you don't know!
I'd also be interested to know how old the PLCs at that plant were. We have zero details about this attack but when the Rockwell/AB exploit was in the news people were talking about buying cards off eBay because they are using discontinued PLCs. Can you imagine?
So, even if the staff understands the risk it doesn't mean they are getting enough money to do anything about it. Utilities are so underfunded. It's another ticking time bomb along with all those neglected pipes in the ground.
Fucking Russia. Why can't they just not be cunts for a change?
Most new systems are IP based and require multi site communication for basically everything, so don't blame Quebec they use the same systems the rest of the country uses. Ie OPG has a job posting mentioning NERC CIP
https://jobs.opg.com/job/Oshawa-Cyber-Security-Specialist-ON-L1H-8W8/603890717/
https://www.hydroquebec.com/reliability-coordinator/standards.html
"Blame Quebec" is lazy. Russia using a target that won't reasonably retaliate as a test is likely. Québec might have been the first instance this penetration was detected as well, this should trigger audits in the rest of the country.
systems are IP based
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Russia using a target
Russian group hacked
should trigger audits
I’m glad there are folks with positive outlooks still alive.
not sure your point. just about every OT system you can think of is connected so it can be managed. feel like OP was just pointing that out?
My org tried to avoid this by not having devices connect to USB or any other wifi except your corporate phone which is locked down. Our system won't connect outside of the LAN so you would need to compromise the corporate phone or steal one or something, or otherwise compromise the VPN somehow I guess? I'm not in security so idk too many of the details.
Buddy thinks government spying agencies don't manipulate organised crime groups or something, which is weird since he posted an article about a group that is backed by a government, as stated in that same article.
NoName is a cybercriminal group financially backed by the Russian government
They can just not be cunts, once they're fully defeated and regime changed and nation-built back into a civilized country. A man can dream, anyway.

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