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[–] 97 points 1 year ago (9 children)

Correct, liberalism is a center-right ideology. They are literally closer on the political spectrum to fascists than leftists.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Depends on. So called "Ur liberalism" was the foundation of a lot of our moral systems on the left, but then we had to realize capitalism have weaponized early representative democracies, so a great split began, and after some conservatives started to call themselves "classical liberals", a steep rightward shift begun, especially with all the moral panics about communism. I remember I had to vote Fidesz, because I got told that the liberal party masquerading as social democrats called MSZP wants to bring back communism and nix all intellectual jobs they can, because "worker's party". Meanwhile, Fidesz nixed all intellectual jobs they could, because they want to build a "work based society". Then all the old people I hated who only liked "communism" because of the authoritarianism suddenly became Fidesz voters, some even celebrated the "return of communism to Hungary", because for them communism was equal with Stahanovist work moralism, which the capitalists in our country have appropriated to themselves. Get ready to work for "at least he works even if it's not much money" style praises, which makes me wish hell was not only real, but that these people had a special place there, very deep down.

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  • [+] -20 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Fascism is literally illiberal.

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  • [–] 38 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    Liberals will always put corporate interests ahead of the rights of the people. Of course they’d rather have happy people and happy corpos, but when push comes to shove they are always more willing to hand the keys to fascists than socialists. At least the fascists believe in capitalism.

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  • [+] -15 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    marxist is stuck in an election with a liberal and a fascist and an anarchist

    marxist votes for self and gives election to fascist

    marxist doesn't care because their purpose was to destroy the nice liberal state they live in to give their life purpose and make their larp universe real

    ps. anarchist never mattered

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  • [+] 14 points 1 year ago (1 child)
  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    I’m all in on trying to reform tbh. If we want to do it right though, we need to change the voting system on in each state, like Alaska and Maine did.

    Having an alternative voting system is how we can get more candidates like Mamdani in office, since we don’t have to worry about vote splitting between our preferred candidate and the incumbent.

    First Past the Post voting is the predominant method for how voting is done in the US. It’s a winner takes all system where you can only pick one of the candidates on the ballot. I feel alternative voting makes way more sense since you can pick your preferred candidate(s) first and then have some back up options you’re personally okay with winning. We end up with so many do nothing incumbents since people worry about splitting their vote so much and letting the worst candidate win, due to the flaw of the system.

    Let’s get the word out about alternative voting systems and organizations that promote them. Get involved locally can help scale it up as well. NYC uses an alternative voting system for instance.

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