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Trump to back ceding of Ukrainian territory to Russia as part of peace deal (www.theguardian.com)
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Details of post-summit call were leaked in which US president supports plan for Kyiv to give up Donbas region

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[–] 23 points 1 year ago* (6 children)

I believe the number is roughly closer to 160 million. I don’t blame the trump voters, stupid is gonna stupid, but the non-voters…. 245 million registers voters, 155M voted.

From the song Freewill by Rush, “If you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice.”

https://www.usnews.com/news/national-news/articles/2024-11-15/how-many-people-didnt-vote-in-the-2024-election

Edit: Me no math good, so that might not add up exactly, but the point remains.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    there’s lots of blame to go around, but you can’t on 1 hand blame apathetic voters and on the other hand NOT blame active trump voters just for stupidity… stupidity may not be a crime, but it also isn’t an excuse

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  • [+] -17 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    I say we imprison anyone who didn't donate all their life savings to Harris.

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  • [–] 12 points 1 year ago* (1 child)

    What? You don’t have to donate shit. You have a choice between the absolute shit show we are in or something that is, at least, stable-ish, malleable, and not a complete fleecing of the not-1%.

    But yeah, go ahead and make an argument for electing a complete fucking clown. A 32 count, twice-impeached, adjudicated sex offending, lying, racist, nepotistic con-man who fucked the Covid situation so bad it was actually surprising, who, being the bestest businessman promises 1500% reduction my drug costs.

    In the meantime, I’ll wait here for my perfect, beautiful healthcare plan while I celebrate the six months since the Ukraine and Russia conflict was solved by our new god king, who for the record, still thinks homeboy literally had MS13 tattooed on his hands.

    JFC. Just stop.

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  • [+] -11 points 1 year ago

    No, actually, if you really believed that Trump was Hitler then you really did have to donate. You had an obligation to sacrifice time, money, and effort. You don't get to do literally the least you could possibly do and then get mad that you lost.

    I'll take lectures from people who actually did everything they could to defeat Trump. They earned that right.

    But if you did basically nothing you don't get to self-righteously declare yourself superior to the rest of the US. The fact is, all USAmericans are guilty, but we also all have to work together: Harris voters, non-voters, third party voters, and even Trump voters.

    But yeah, go ahead and make an argument for electing a complete fucking clown.

    I didn't vote for him, why would I make an argument for him?

    I will say he's probably senile, and fat and old besides, so he might not even live the full four years. That'd be pretty funny.

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