▲ 493 ▼ AI experts return from China stunned: The U.S. grid is so weak, the race may already be over (fortune.com) submitted 1 year ago by themachinestops@lemmy.dbzer0.com to c/technology@lemmy.world 159 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] wewbull@feddit.uk 21 points 1 year ago (7 children) China is far from full renewable. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] moitoi@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 1 year ago (6 children) Did I say "are full renewable"? No. I wrote something else with a different meaning. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] wewbull@feddit.uk 8 points 1 year ago (5 children) You said it was their trajectory. It's not. Renewables are a part of their plan, sure, but that coal graph isn't turning around. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] AA5B@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago (1 child) Add data from this year. From several sources, they passed peak carbon last year, and expect coal to peak this year or next and start declining. Also consider during the time in those charts they went from a developing country to mostly developed with much higher standard of living. They achieved a century of economic progress in a couple decades while simultaneously rolling out renewable energy faster than anyone else permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] wewbull@feddit.uk 1 point 1 year ago We don't have 2025 data because 2025 isn't finished yet. permalink fedilink source parent [+] skisnow@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 year ago (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] wewbull@feddit.uk 0 points 1 year ago (1 child) Yes, but do you think that rate is good enough given they are still growing coal at a massive rate? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply)
[–] moitoi@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 1 year ago (6 children) Did I say "are full renewable"? No. I wrote something else with a different meaning. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] wewbull@feddit.uk 8 points 1 year ago (5 children) You said it was their trajectory. It's not. Renewables are a part of their plan, sure, but that coal graph isn't turning around. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] AA5B@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago (1 child) Add data from this year. From several sources, they passed peak carbon last year, and expect coal to peak this year or next and start declining. Also consider during the time in those charts they went from a developing country to mostly developed with much higher standard of living. They achieved a century of economic progress in a couple decades while simultaneously rolling out renewable energy faster than anyone else permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] wewbull@feddit.uk 1 point 1 year ago We don't have 2025 data because 2025 isn't finished yet. permalink fedilink source parent [+] skisnow@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 year ago (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] wewbull@feddit.uk 0 points 1 year ago (1 child) Yes, but do you think that rate is good enough given they are still growing coal at a massive rate? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply)
[–] wewbull@feddit.uk 8 points 1 year ago (5 children) You said it was their trajectory. It's not. Renewables are a part of their plan, sure, but that coal graph isn't turning around. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] AA5B@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago (1 child) Add data from this year. From several sources, they passed peak carbon last year, and expect coal to peak this year or next and start declining. Also consider during the time in those charts they went from a developing country to mostly developed with much higher standard of living. They achieved a century of economic progress in a couple decades while simultaneously rolling out renewable energy faster than anyone else permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] wewbull@feddit.uk 1 point 1 year ago We don't have 2025 data because 2025 isn't finished yet. permalink fedilink source parent [+] skisnow@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 year ago (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] wewbull@feddit.uk 0 points 1 year ago (1 child) Yes, but do you think that rate is good enough given they are still growing coal at a massive rate? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply)
[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago (1 child) Add data from this year. From several sources, they passed peak carbon last year, and expect coal to peak this year or next and start declining. Also consider during the time in those charts they went from a developing country to mostly developed with much higher standard of living. They achieved a century of economic progress in a couple decades while simultaneously rolling out renewable energy faster than anyone else permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] wewbull@feddit.uk 1 point 1 year ago We don't have 2025 data because 2025 isn't finished yet. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] wewbull@feddit.uk 1 point 1 year ago We don't have 2025 data because 2025 isn't finished yet. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] skisnow@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 year ago (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] wewbull@feddit.uk 0 points 1 year ago (1 child) Yes, but do you think that rate is good enough given they are still growing coal at a massive rate? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply)
[–] wewbull@feddit.uk 0 points 1 year ago (1 child) Yes, but do you think that rate is good enough given they are still growing coal at a massive rate? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply)