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What's up with this straight up pro-china and pro-russia stuff on Lemmy lately? (toast.ooo)
submitted 1 year ago by to c/asklemmy@lemmy.ml
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[–] 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

People completely ignore the voices of Ukrainians fighting to defend their homeland.

Which Ukrainians?

  • The oligarchs running the state?
  • The Banderite fascists?
  • The eastern & southern Ukrainians, who, after the Maidan coup, declared independence from an unelected government, and were subsequently terrorized by the Banderites for nearly a decade, with tacit and overt support from the Ukrainian and US governments?
  • The western Ukrainians who want the war to end?
  • The men being kidnapped off the streets and pushed to the front lines against their will?

 
Previously: If not for the US/NATO, this war wouldn’t have happened in the first place.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Which Russians?

    • The oligarchs running the state?
    • The Wagner fascists?
    • The Russian democrats and anti-fascists who, after opposing Putin'ss unelected government, were subsequently terrorized by the FSB for nearly a decade before being imprisoned or killed?
    • The Eastern Russians who want the war to end?
    • The men being kidnapped off the streets and pushed to the front lines against their will?

    See how easy it is to write this bullshit? And mine is actually true.

    You've rejected western propaganda, which is fair, but then rather than engaging with reality critically, you've just bought into Russian propaganda without a second thought.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    What’s your point, that Ukrainians are an undifferentiated mass of Euro stans like our government and media portray them? Because that’s bullshit. We’re not talking about Russians, we’re talking about Ukrainians, including those with linguistic, cultural, familial, and business ties to Russia.

    you’ve just bought into Russian propaganda without a second thought.

    Do you think I’m watching RT and reading Pravda? Almost everything I’ve read or heard has come from Western sources. Almost all the links in my previous comment are Western sources.

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