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[–] 31 points 1 year ago (15 children)

Cool. That was worth burning fossil fuels to power the data centers housing the LLMs that access intellectual property without permission. Glad there's a point to further destroying the environment!

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  • [–] 11 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    DingDong is one of the idiots who got us here because he couldn't bring himself to vote for Harris.

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  • [+] -9 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Interpreting someone advocating that a candidate not adopt a losing strategy as advocating for the opposition and shitlibs pretending they aren't the problem at the very core of US Democracy.

    Name a more iconic duo.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    Wow, we're here in a thread about Trump sending the fucking marines into a city because he doesn't like people publicly disagreeing with him and you still manage to blame the Democrats. Wow, just wow.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (8 children)

    While I agree that their comment didn't add much to the discussion, it's possible that you used more electricity to type out your response than it did for them to post theirs.

    It's estimated that a single ChatGPT prompt uses up ~0.3 Wh of electricity.

    If @Empricorn@feddit.nl is on a desktop computer browsing the internet using electricity at a rate of ~150 W, and @TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world is on a smartphone, then you would only have ~16 seconds to type up a response before you begin using more electricity than they did.

    Some math150Wh/60min/60sec = 0.041666 Wh every second

    Or about 2.5 Wh every minute.

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  • [–] 11 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    It's not just about the environmental impact.

    If you're an expert in a specific field, you should interrogate these LLMs to see how accurate they actually are

    When you see how fucking wrong they are about shit you have a firm grasp on, you will immediately stop trusting it regarding ANYTHING.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    Yeah, if you're relying on them to be right about anything, you're using it wrong.

    A fine tuned model will go a lot further if you're looking for something specific, but they mostly excel with summarizing text or brainstorming ideas.

    For instance, if you're a Dungeon Master in D&D and the group goes off script, you can quickly generate the back story of some random character that you didn't expect the players to do a deep dive on.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Oooh, do mobile power usage next!

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    I didn't factor in mobile power usage as much in the equation before because it's fairly negligible. However, I downloaded an app to track my phone's energy use just for fun.

    A mobile user browsing the fediverse would be using electricity around a rate of ~1 Watt (depends on the phone of course and if you're using WiFi or LTE, etc.).

    For a mobile user on WiFi:
    In the 16 seconds that a desktop user has to burn through the energy to match those 2 prompts to chatGPT, that same mobile user would only use up ~0.00444 Wh.

    Looking at it another way, a mobile user could browse the fediverse for 18min before they match the 0.3 Wh that a single prompt to ChatGPT would use.

    For a mobile user on LTE:
    With Voyager I was getting a rate of ~2 Watts.
    With a browser I was getting a rate of ~4 Watts.

    So to match the power for a single prompt to chatGPT you could browse the fediverse on Voyager for ~9 minutes, or using a browser for ~4.5 minutes.

    I'm not sure how accurate this app is, and I didn't test extensively to really nail down exact values, but those numbers sound about right.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    So one, I'm on solar, and I was on a thin and light laptop.

    However, I was also running the electric kettle at the time for a nice cup of hater tears.

    How much energy would the electric kettle take relative to a single push to a GPT?

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Depends on the electric kettle, the first few I looked at on amazon run at ~600-800 Watts.

    So, on the lower end there, you're looking at about 0.166 Wh every second.

    So a single push to chatGPT (0.3 Wh) uses about the same energy as an electric kettle does in less than 2 seconds.

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