▲ 3 ▼ Gaming on Linux hasn't been great so far... - JayzTwoCents (www.youtube.com) submitted 1 year ago by inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world to c/pcgaming@lemmy.ca 16 comments fedilink hide all child comments Interesting take of a average newbie user's take on Linux and gaming.
[–] kennedy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 1 year ago (6 children) skill issue honestly permalink fedilink source hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] MangoPenguin@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 year ago (5 children) To be fair if this was windows messing with the EFI bootloader, I don't think the Bazzite installer notifies you to make a new EFI partition to stop that from happening (at least I can't remember it doing so last I used it), so how is a new user expected to know it can be a problem? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] atrielienz@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (4 children) Their guide specifically mentions making a separate EFI boot partition for your Linux install. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] MangoPenguin@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 point 1 year ago (3 children) But not the actual installer where you pick where to install the bootloader? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] atrielienz@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children) I'm not sure they should be assuming that you're going to install Bazzite with a windows partition still in place at all. So it's less confusing and more streamlined (and I suppose novice friendly) to not include that. It's more complicated to do the partitioning process (which their installer also doesn't do and does provide a means for — gparted isn't included in their installer for instance) so you're relying on windows or other tools to even partition the drive in the first place. Their tool is setup the way it is to make installing only Bazzite, and I'm not sure that adding extra options to it is going to make it more usable and understandable for someone who's just starting out in Linux but can if the added utility is there. The tool doesn't give you options to really amend your install after the fact, add or remove features etc. But should it? Edit: For charities clarity's sake I'm going to point out that if you make a partition for it EFI boot you can use their tool to set that up but it involves going into advanced features and you still have to create those partitions (Linux partition separate from windows and EFI boot separate from windows EFI boot etc) in order to do so. If you do select advanced options you will get more information but it's been awhile since I did this and I don't remember specifics. I'll check the guide probably sometime today and try to report back. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MangoPenguin@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) Yeah that's fair, it would be nice if it at least showed you a warning that "windows might break things" if it detects a windows install and you're choosing the dual boot option. That way someone has a better idea of what to do when it does break. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] atrielienz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) Yeah Ye as, but unless you're booting up a brand new SSD or a wiped one, it's likely that you'll have a windows install. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] MangoPenguin@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 year ago (5 children) To be fair if this was windows messing with the EFI bootloader, I don't think the Bazzite installer notifies you to make a new EFI partition to stop that from happening (at least I can't remember it doing so last I used it), so how is a new user expected to know it can be a problem? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] atrielienz@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (4 children) Their guide specifically mentions making a separate EFI boot partition for your Linux install. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] MangoPenguin@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 point 1 year ago (3 children) But not the actual installer where you pick where to install the bootloader? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] atrielienz@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children) I'm not sure they should be assuming that you're going to install Bazzite with a windows partition still in place at all. So it's less confusing and more streamlined (and I suppose novice friendly) to not include that. It's more complicated to do the partitioning process (which their installer also doesn't do and does provide a means for — gparted isn't included in their installer for instance) so you're relying on windows or other tools to even partition the drive in the first place. Their tool is setup the way it is to make installing only Bazzite, and I'm not sure that adding extra options to it is going to make it more usable and understandable for someone who's just starting out in Linux but can if the added utility is there. The tool doesn't give you options to really amend your install after the fact, add or remove features etc. But should it? Edit: For charities clarity's sake I'm going to point out that if you make a partition for it EFI boot you can use their tool to set that up but it involves going into advanced features and you still have to create those partitions (Linux partition separate from windows and EFI boot separate from windows EFI boot etc) in order to do so. If you do select advanced options you will get more information but it's been awhile since I did this and I don't remember specifics. I'll check the guide probably sometime today and try to report back. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MangoPenguin@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) Yeah that's fair, it would be nice if it at least showed you a warning that "windows might break things" if it detects a windows install and you're choosing the dual boot option. That way someone has a better idea of what to do when it does break. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] atrielienz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) Yeah Ye as, but unless you're booting up a brand new SSD or a wiped one, it's likely that you'll have a windows install. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] atrielienz@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (4 children) Their guide specifically mentions making a separate EFI boot partition for your Linux install. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] MangoPenguin@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 point 1 year ago (3 children) But not the actual installer where you pick where to install the bootloader? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] atrielienz@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children) I'm not sure they should be assuming that you're going to install Bazzite with a windows partition still in place at all. So it's less confusing and more streamlined (and I suppose novice friendly) to not include that. It's more complicated to do the partitioning process (which their installer also doesn't do and does provide a means for — gparted isn't included in their installer for instance) so you're relying on windows or other tools to even partition the drive in the first place. Their tool is setup the way it is to make installing only Bazzite, and I'm not sure that adding extra options to it is going to make it more usable and understandable for someone who's just starting out in Linux but can if the added utility is there. The tool doesn't give you options to really amend your install after the fact, add or remove features etc. But should it? Edit: For charities clarity's sake I'm going to point out that if you make a partition for it EFI boot you can use their tool to set that up but it involves going into advanced features and you still have to create those partitions (Linux partition separate from windows and EFI boot separate from windows EFI boot etc) in order to do so. If you do select advanced options you will get more information but it's been awhile since I did this and I don't remember specifics. I'll check the guide probably sometime today and try to report back. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MangoPenguin@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) Yeah that's fair, it would be nice if it at least showed you a warning that "windows might break things" if it detects a windows install and you're choosing the dual boot option. That way someone has a better idea of what to do when it does break. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] atrielienz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) Yeah Ye as, but unless you're booting up a brand new SSD or a wiped one, it's likely that you'll have a windows install. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] MangoPenguin@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 point 1 year ago (3 children) But not the actual installer where you pick where to install the bootloader? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] atrielienz@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children) I'm not sure they should be assuming that you're going to install Bazzite with a windows partition still in place at all. So it's less confusing and more streamlined (and I suppose novice friendly) to not include that. It's more complicated to do the partitioning process (which their installer also doesn't do and does provide a means for — gparted isn't included in their installer for instance) so you're relying on windows or other tools to even partition the drive in the first place. Their tool is setup the way it is to make installing only Bazzite, and I'm not sure that adding extra options to it is going to make it more usable and understandable for someone who's just starting out in Linux but can if the added utility is there. The tool doesn't give you options to really amend your install after the fact, add or remove features etc. But should it? Edit: For charities clarity's sake I'm going to point out that if you make a partition for it EFI boot you can use their tool to set that up but it involves going into advanced features and you still have to create those partitions (Linux partition separate from windows and EFI boot separate from windows EFI boot etc) in order to do so. If you do select advanced options you will get more information but it's been awhile since I did this and I don't remember specifics. I'll check the guide probably sometime today and try to report back. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MangoPenguin@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) Yeah that's fair, it would be nice if it at least showed you a warning that "windows might break things" if it detects a windows install and you're choosing the dual boot option. That way someone has a better idea of what to do when it does break. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] atrielienz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) Yeah Ye as, but unless you're booting up a brand new SSD or a wiped one, it's likely that you'll have a windows install. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] atrielienz@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children) I'm not sure they should be assuming that you're going to install Bazzite with a windows partition still in place at all. So it's less confusing and more streamlined (and I suppose novice friendly) to not include that. It's more complicated to do the partitioning process (which their installer also doesn't do and does provide a means for — gparted isn't included in their installer for instance) so you're relying on windows or other tools to even partition the drive in the first place. Their tool is setup the way it is to make installing only Bazzite, and I'm not sure that adding extra options to it is going to make it more usable and understandable for someone who's just starting out in Linux but can if the added utility is there. The tool doesn't give you options to really amend your install after the fact, add or remove features etc. But should it? Edit: For charities clarity's sake I'm going to point out that if you make a partition for it EFI boot you can use their tool to set that up but it involves going into advanced features and you still have to create those partitions (Linux partition separate from windows and EFI boot separate from windows EFI boot etc) in order to do so. If you do select advanced options you will get more information but it's been awhile since I did this and I don't remember specifics. I'll check the guide probably sometime today and try to report back. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MangoPenguin@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) Yeah that's fair, it would be nice if it at least showed you a warning that "windows might break things" if it detects a windows install and you're choosing the dual boot option. That way someone has a better idea of what to do when it does break. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] atrielienz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) Yeah Ye as, but unless you're booting up a brand new SSD or a wiped one, it's likely that you'll have a windows install. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] MangoPenguin@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) Yeah that's fair, it would be nice if it at least showed you a warning that "windows might break things" if it detects a windows install and you're choosing the dual boot option. That way someone has a better idea of what to do when it does break. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] atrielienz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) Yeah Ye as, but unless you're booting up a brand new SSD or a wiped one, it's likely that you'll have a windows install. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] atrielienz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) Yeah Ye as, but unless you're booting up a brand new SSD or a wiped one, it's likely that you'll have a windows install. permalink fedilink source parent