▲ 261 ▼ She Won. They Didn't Just Change the Machines. They Rewired the Election. (thiswillhold.substack.com) submitted 1 year ago by Five@slrpnk.net to c/usa@midwest.social 93 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] vovo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 30 points 1 year ago (8 children) The Common Coalition Report permalink fedilink source hideshow 8 child comments replies: [+] chemical_cutthroat@lemmy.world 104 points 1 year ago (7 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [+] IceFoxX@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago* (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Godwins_Law@lemmy.ca 10 points 1 year ago (1 child) But the evidence has to be ironclad to be actionable or else we're no better then them. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] minoscopede@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) Context: I worked in IAM (computer security) at a past job. In computer security, we don't wait to get proof that a vulnerability was exploited. We have to operate under the assumption that any vulnerability was immediately exploited, and take immediate action to fix it and limit the impact. Doubly so when the stakes are high. We need popular support to get real security experts to investigate these claims. If there was even a single path that could have led to a vulnerability of this scale, we need to completely secure these systems and do an immediate recount/re-vote. I'll also say, I was surprised to learn that these voting systems and their specs are not fully public and open source. That alone makes me very uncomfortable. Security through obscurity is not security at all. permalink fedilink source parent [–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world -3 points 1 year ago (4 children) You are the one here denouncing the credibility of these claims. You and the bots... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] chemical_cutthroat@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (3 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world -4 points 1 year ago (2 children) The ones pushing propaganda are functionally indistinguishable from bots yes permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] chemical_cutthroat@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world -2 points 1 year ago We're at war, sorry you don't like how propaganda can be used against fascists. Sorry you support talking points that forward the interests of fascists. It's really unfortunate you let yourself be controlled by Republicans like this. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies)
[+] chemical_cutthroat@lemmy.world 104 points 1 year ago (7 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [+] IceFoxX@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago* (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Godwins_Law@lemmy.ca 10 points 1 year ago (1 child) But the evidence has to be ironclad to be actionable or else we're no better then them. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] minoscopede@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) Context: I worked in IAM (computer security) at a past job. In computer security, we don't wait to get proof that a vulnerability was exploited. We have to operate under the assumption that any vulnerability was immediately exploited, and take immediate action to fix it and limit the impact. Doubly so when the stakes are high. We need popular support to get real security experts to investigate these claims. If there was even a single path that could have led to a vulnerability of this scale, we need to completely secure these systems and do an immediate recount/re-vote. I'll also say, I was surprised to learn that these voting systems and their specs are not fully public and open source. That alone makes me very uncomfortable. Security through obscurity is not security at all. permalink fedilink source parent [–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world -3 points 1 year ago (4 children) You are the one here denouncing the credibility of these claims. You and the bots... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] chemical_cutthroat@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (3 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world -4 points 1 year ago (2 children) The ones pushing propaganda are functionally indistinguishable from bots yes permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] chemical_cutthroat@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world -2 points 1 year ago We're at war, sorry you don't like how propaganda can be used against fascists. Sorry you support talking points that forward the interests of fascists. It's really unfortunate you let yourself be controlled by Republicans like this. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies)
[+] IceFoxX@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago* (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Godwins_Law@lemmy.ca 10 points 1 year ago (1 child) But the evidence has to be ironclad to be actionable or else we're no better then them. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] minoscopede@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) Context: I worked in IAM (computer security) at a past job. In computer security, we don't wait to get proof that a vulnerability was exploited. We have to operate under the assumption that any vulnerability was immediately exploited, and take immediate action to fix it and limit the impact. Doubly so when the stakes are high. We need popular support to get real security experts to investigate these claims. If there was even a single path that could have led to a vulnerability of this scale, we need to completely secure these systems and do an immediate recount/re-vote. I'll also say, I was surprised to learn that these voting systems and their specs are not fully public and open source. That alone makes me very uncomfortable. Security through obscurity is not security at all. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Godwins_Law@lemmy.ca 10 points 1 year ago (1 child) But the evidence has to be ironclad to be actionable or else we're no better then them. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] minoscopede@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) Context: I worked in IAM (computer security) at a past job. In computer security, we don't wait to get proof that a vulnerability was exploited. We have to operate under the assumption that any vulnerability was immediately exploited, and take immediate action to fix it and limit the impact. Doubly so when the stakes are high. We need popular support to get real security experts to investigate these claims. If there was even a single path that could have led to a vulnerability of this scale, we need to completely secure these systems and do an immediate recount/re-vote. I'll also say, I was surprised to learn that these voting systems and their specs are not fully public and open source. That alone makes me very uncomfortable. Security through obscurity is not security at all. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] minoscopede@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) Context: I worked in IAM (computer security) at a past job. In computer security, we don't wait to get proof that a vulnerability was exploited. We have to operate under the assumption that any vulnerability was immediately exploited, and take immediate action to fix it and limit the impact. Doubly so when the stakes are high. We need popular support to get real security experts to investigate these claims. If there was even a single path that could have led to a vulnerability of this scale, we need to completely secure these systems and do an immediate recount/re-vote. I'll also say, I was surprised to learn that these voting systems and their specs are not fully public and open source. That alone makes me very uncomfortable. Security through obscurity is not security at all. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world -3 points 1 year ago (4 children) You are the one here denouncing the credibility of these claims. You and the bots... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] chemical_cutthroat@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (3 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world -4 points 1 year ago (2 children) The ones pushing propaganda are functionally indistinguishable from bots yes permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] chemical_cutthroat@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world -2 points 1 year ago We're at war, sorry you don't like how propaganda can be used against fascists. Sorry you support talking points that forward the interests of fascists. It's really unfortunate you let yourself be controlled by Republicans like this. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] chemical_cutthroat@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (3 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world -4 points 1 year ago (2 children) The ones pushing propaganda are functionally indistinguishable from bots yes permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] chemical_cutthroat@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world -2 points 1 year ago We're at war, sorry you don't like how propaganda can be used against fascists. Sorry you support talking points that forward the interests of fascists. It's really unfortunate you let yourself be controlled by Republicans like this. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world -4 points 1 year ago (2 children) The ones pushing propaganda are functionally indistinguishable from bots yes permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] chemical_cutthroat@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world -2 points 1 year ago We're at war, sorry you don't like how propaganda can be used against fascists. Sorry you support talking points that forward the interests of fascists. It's really unfortunate you let yourself be controlled by Republicans like this. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] chemical_cutthroat@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world -2 points 1 year ago We're at war, sorry you don't like how propaganda can be used against fascists. Sorry you support talking points that forward the interests of fascists. It's really unfortunate you let yourself be controlled by Republicans like this. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world -2 points 1 year ago We're at war, sorry you don't like how propaganda can be used against fascists. Sorry you support talking points that forward the interests of fascists. It's really unfortunate you let yourself be controlled by Republicans like this. permalink fedilink source parent