And Douche and Turd Sandwich was in 2004 and... while I don't actually like Kerry or think he would have been a particularly good president, we were also looking at dubyah as the incumbent who had already started two-ish wars (which... I think are worth looking at in terms of what they COULD have accomplished but that sure as hell wasn't what we were doing over there).

A buddy of mine compared matt and trey to The Lincoln Project and... I am not sure I can actually disagree. Sometimes our interests align but it is REALLY dangerous to praise "the cool conservatives".