▲ 333 ▼ O no! Not the nazisss (lemmy.ml) submitted 1 year ago by bubblybubbles@lemmy.ml to c/memes@lemmy.ml 270 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[+] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 12 points 1 year ago (5 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] vfreire85@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 year ago* i remember a pic of an arse-faced woman showing the monthly ration provided to her by the state in poland, as if saying "look at this misery". probably the pic was shot in the early 80s. when i first saw that the first thing that came to my mind is that, in northeastern brazil (my home region), around the same time, about 1.5 million people died of starvation and malnutrition during the drought of 1977-83, and many would literally give an arm or a leg for that ration. permalink fedilink source parent [–] matmarspace@programming.dev -3 points 1 year ago* (3 children) Well... I'm not a fan of communism so in my opinion of course will differ. Nevertheless I think it was net negative especially because of personal freedoms (or lack there of), censorship, police brutality etc., but I totally agree that it was far better than Nazi occupation. Of course it was. It was peace time finally after all. History isn't black and white so there were some good things from PRL (polish acronym for People's Republic of Poland). Free education, healthcare and mass construction of public housing were some of the good ones that to this day make our lives in Poland better (the prefabricated housing especially in my opinion) but I think it could have been done without all the atrocities inflicted by the puppet government if only Poland was independent after the war and not under the de facto Soviet occupation. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] alsaaas@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 1 year ago If you have an open mind and have ~3 minutes, I can recommend this short clip from a Michael Parenti lecture https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JSpVB_XXXBQ Further "reading" if you're interested: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BeVs6t3vdjQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=npkeecCErQc permalink fedilink source parent [+] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 year ago (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] matmarspace@programming.dev -1 points 1 year ago (1 child) That's understandable. By the way in my opinion much of the anti-sentiment towards communism in Polish society today comes from all the bad stuff the PRL government did so maybe if that didn't happen the outlook on it today would be different. For example as a strong free speech advocate I think it's a shame that today in Poland "promoting communism" is prohibited by law (it's not even a normal legislation but it's enshrined in the constitution). I personally think that shouldn't be the case. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] matmarspace@programming.dev 3 points 1 year ago Thanks for the discussion. Have a good day my friend :) permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies)
[–] vfreire85@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 year ago* i remember a pic of an arse-faced woman showing the monthly ration provided to her by the state in poland, as if saying "look at this misery". probably the pic was shot in the early 80s. when i first saw that the first thing that came to my mind is that, in northeastern brazil (my home region), around the same time, about 1.5 million people died of starvation and malnutrition during the drought of 1977-83, and many would literally give an arm or a leg for that ration. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] matmarspace@programming.dev -3 points 1 year ago* (3 children) Well... I'm not a fan of communism so in my opinion of course will differ. Nevertheless I think it was net negative especially because of personal freedoms (or lack there of), censorship, police brutality etc., but I totally agree that it was far better than Nazi occupation. Of course it was. It was peace time finally after all. History isn't black and white so there were some good things from PRL (polish acronym for People's Republic of Poland). Free education, healthcare and mass construction of public housing were some of the good ones that to this day make our lives in Poland better (the prefabricated housing especially in my opinion) but I think it could have been done without all the atrocities inflicted by the puppet government if only Poland was independent after the war and not under the de facto Soviet occupation. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] alsaaas@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 1 year ago If you have an open mind and have ~3 minutes, I can recommend this short clip from a Michael Parenti lecture https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JSpVB_XXXBQ Further "reading" if you're interested: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BeVs6t3vdjQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=npkeecCErQc permalink fedilink source parent [+] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 year ago (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] matmarspace@programming.dev -1 points 1 year ago (1 child) That's understandable. By the way in my opinion much of the anti-sentiment towards communism in Polish society today comes from all the bad stuff the PRL government did so maybe if that didn't happen the outlook on it today would be different. For example as a strong free speech advocate I think it's a shame that today in Poland "promoting communism" is prohibited by law (it's not even a normal legislation but it's enshrined in the constitution). I personally think that shouldn't be the case. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] matmarspace@programming.dev 3 points 1 year ago Thanks for the discussion. Have a good day my friend :) permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies)
[–] alsaaas@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 1 year ago If you have an open mind and have ~3 minutes, I can recommend this short clip from a Michael Parenti lecture https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JSpVB_XXXBQ Further "reading" if you're interested: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BeVs6t3vdjQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=npkeecCErQc permalink fedilink source parent
[+] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 year ago (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] matmarspace@programming.dev -1 points 1 year ago (1 child) That's understandable. By the way in my opinion much of the anti-sentiment towards communism in Polish society today comes from all the bad stuff the PRL government did so maybe if that didn't happen the outlook on it today would be different. For example as a strong free speech advocate I think it's a shame that today in Poland "promoting communism" is prohibited by law (it's not even a normal legislation but it's enshrined in the constitution). I personally think that shouldn't be the case. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] matmarspace@programming.dev 3 points 1 year ago Thanks for the discussion. Have a good day my friend :) permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies)
[–] matmarspace@programming.dev -1 points 1 year ago (1 child) That's understandable. By the way in my opinion much of the anti-sentiment towards communism in Polish society today comes from all the bad stuff the PRL government did so maybe if that didn't happen the outlook on it today would be different. For example as a strong free speech advocate I think it's a shame that today in Poland "promoting communism" is prohibited by law (it's not even a normal legislation but it's enshrined in the constitution). I personally think that shouldn't be the case. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] matmarspace@programming.dev 3 points 1 year ago Thanks for the discussion. Have a good day my friend :) permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies)
[+] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] matmarspace@programming.dev 3 points 1 year ago Thanks for the discussion. Have a good day my friend :) permalink fedilink source parent
[–] matmarspace@programming.dev 3 points 1 year ago Thanks for the discussion. Have a good day my friend :) permalink fedilink source parent