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Alt text from source01: A girl labeled 'Artists' is holding a drawing tablet and pen under her arm. She is wearing round glasses and a blue sweatshirt. She has messy dark-brown hair and a brown skin-tone. She says "We don't really wanna MAKE A.I. art."

02: A guy labeled 'Art Enjoyers' holds his hand out while speaking. She is wearing a purple and yellow hawaiian shirt with a floral pattern over a white t-shirt, and has red hair and a light skin-tone. He says "We don't really wanna SEE A.I. art."

03: Behind them both, there is a cute girl in a business suit with a pink tie. She is blushing a bit and has pink eyeshadow, and looks upset. Her messy shoulder-length hair is parted in the middle, and held by two hairclips: one that looks like a red arrow pointing down, and one that looks like a green arrow pointing up. She says "Um ... I-Isn't there someone you forgot to ask?" She is labeled 'Shareholders'.

04: She puffs up her cheeks and pouts, a tear is on the verge of falling from one of her eyes. 'Artist Enjoyers' Guy is now in front of her yelling "AH!! SHAREHOLDERS-CHAN!!" while 'Artists' Girl is in front of her yelling "WE'RE SORRY WE HURT YOU!!!!"

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[–] 8 points 1 year ago (14 children)

Well those artists consented to being assistants and having their works used. Not so much with these image training databases

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  • [+] -14 points 1 year ago (13 children)

    We are discussing if I'm an artist by using diffusion models, not if training data has been fairly compensated.

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  • [–] 11 points 1 year ago (12 children)

    The answer is no. You’re not an artist.

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  • [–] -4 points 1 year ago (11 children)

    Then how am I different from Warhol and Hirst who are artists?

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (10 children)

    They’re not artists, they’re grifters, you’re no different.

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  • [–] -1 points 1 year ago (9 children)

    Artists are grifters.

    To avoid paying restaurant bills, Dalí would draw on the backs of cheques.

    Michelangelo faked an ancient Roman sculpture, buried it to age it, then sold it as a rare antique.

    Yves Klein sold “invisible art"

    Elmyr de Hory forged Matisse, Picasso, Modigliani etc.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (8 children)

    No, grifters are grifters, people can be more than one thing. They made art, they also grifted, they were separate things. AI is only a grift.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago (7 children)

    AI is a grift, but it can also produce art.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (6 children)

    Not only do I disagree that it can produce art, I would argue that is just a stupid as fuck thing to say, and you are fucking begging to be grifted and getting your wish.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (5 children)

    Given that people regularly mistake AI output as art, it's not at all stupid.

    You are getting angry at the wrong part of AI image generation.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (4 children)

    Have fun being grifted, grifter, go play with your “AI.”

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (3 children)

    If I am using my own GPU and open source models, exactly how am I being grifted?

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