I think American Horror Story would be a good Western example. I watched each season until the first episode of Hotel. It contained a scene of sexual violence brutal enough for me and my significant other to agree to quit the show. While discussing it we realized ALL seasons contained episodes featuring sexual violence.

I just think it's a little strange to hear complaints about hypocrisy like this coming from an author that deliberately uses SA as a plot point - that's all I was trying to point out.

Oh yea, as a huge soulslike fan, I would really like to know about Berserk so see where Miyazaki pulled a lot of his inspiration from, but I won't ever watch or read it because of the SA it includes. Just not interested.

Even my favourite anime, Samurai Champloo, uses SA or involuntary sexual advances as plot points, which I didn't really grasp back when I was around 13ish years old, and was shocked to see when I tried to rewatch the show with my SO. It's a little perverse to see just how much this is used as a plot device when it's not unnecessary. Anime is full of it for some reason. It might be a cultural thing because Japanese people are sexually very closed off, from what I've heard, so they include such themes in anime and in porn. But yea - not for me, please.

Recently started watching Breaking Bad for the first time, and I was just shocked seeing that scene in the first season where Walt tries to force himself onto Skyler when he tries to hide his shadiness. Fortunately, not a lot happens there and she snaps back immediately, but come on dude - really??? Nothing like this happens again in the following seasons, currently around the end of season 3, so I'm just sitting there wondering what the point was. Was it just shock value? Because it didn't add anything of value otherwise than to see that Walt is becoming more and more immoral and shady in his business, but there would have been so many other ways to show that apart from SA. I don't know, man.

I think it's a touchy subject for me in general, and I won't ever tolerate seeing it in media. I don't even know if there's a case to be had about SA being used as a "sensible" plot line, but even if there were, I wouldn't be able to see past my absolute aversion and disgust I feel over seeing that.

Yes! Exactly! And you also have to both know and trust each others limits. If you offer for your partner to spank you, and you're expecting a light little funishment, but they go full ham, and blister and bruise your ass, you're both going to have a bad time.

But if you both know and expect similiar ideas, and thats whats engaged in, respecting limits, and respecting consent, and respecting bountries, it can be a lot of fun.

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