WARNING: Spoilers ahead...on a story 2.5 millennia old.

Finally got around to watching it this weekend. After the Mt. Everest sized stack of cash it made and all of the glowing reviews, honestly, it was pretty underwhelming.

First thing's first. The dialogue was AAAAAAAAAWFUL. Seriously? What the hell? It sounded like I was listening to dialogue written by a small team of junior high students. And not the junior high students that take honors English. I was fine with the choice to do American accents, although I would have preferred British accents for a movie like this cuz it just sounds classier. But that wasn't it. It was the actual words used by the actors to communicate to each other. It was just so dumbed down and sounded so boring and basic. I'm assuming it was a choice made on purpose to maybe connect with as many modern English speakers as possible, but it largely killed the film for me. I was actually kind of shocked how bad the dialogue was in this movie.

Another thing that kind of bothered me, although not nearly to the same degree as the dialogue, was over-acting. I felt like there were some performances that were dialed up a little too much. To the point where it kind of took me out of the film because I felt like I was watching an actor trying to shoot for an oscar a bit too hard. I think the main culprit on this one was Anne Hathaway. Alternatively, I think there was also an issue of under-acting. I'll get to that below.

Pacing. Despite having 3 hours to tell the story, I kind of felt like some things were skipped over too quickly. Other things that they spent too much time on could have been shortened to allow more time for things I think deserved the time more. Scenes didn't really punch the way I thought they should. In the book the scene where he comes back after 20 years and his dog is still alive but dies as he touches it and it recognizes him is really impactful, but it was just kind of glossed over in the movie with little to no emotion from Matt Damon. Same with Odysseus finding out Calypso had trapped him on the island for years. Not a lot of emotion there. Actually, I think the only scene Damon really sold was the siren scene. He did the opposite of over-act for most of the movie.

The film looks great. Gotta give it that. The cinematography is solid. And I'm not saying the film was bad (other than the dialogue which was truly awful). I just don't get the massive hype. Honestly, I still prefer the 90s made for TV version with Armand Assante. I think the dialogue was better. The acting was better. The pacing was better even though it's almost exactly the same length as this new version. And they did it without the star-studded cast the new film has. Obviously the new version has better special effects, and I do think overall better cinematography. I acknowledge maybe there's some rose-tinted glasses thing going for me with the 90s version as I grew up with it.

I guess I'd give this new version a B. Just a mid-range B. With a special handwritten in red ink note in the margins that the dialogue is an F.

Ok, crucify me now.

EDIT: You know what, I'd like to add a few things I did like, beyond the cinematography. I liked Odysseus' monologue about the siren's song. I liked his monologue about his point of view of his role in the war when he's talking to his wife. I liked that Athena ended up being a ghost of someone he watched get murdered at Troy (although I do not like Zendaya as an actress).

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[–] 17 points 17 hours ago (9 children)

Right, because if something is popular then the only possible reason to dislike is to feel superior?

People here like things just fine, but if no one likes the same things as you then maybe this is just not a place for you?

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  • [–] -2 points 17 hours ago (8 children)

    No, and that's the key. My point isn't about this one post, but about a rot I've been noticing on Lemmy specifically over the last few months where to be included you must not show any interest in something that is popular. That is a toxic culture. There are always those who disagree, and we want to encourage that! That's great! However, if the culture is swinging towards anger against popular items, that's something completely different. That's what I'm really tired of and I'm tired of supporting.

    The result is obvious. Take GTA 6. 6-12 months ago I saw posts here that were both positive and negative about both rockstar and the game. Now you can't even have the name in the title without it being insta-downvoted. Almost every comment isn't just discussion, but vitriol against it. It's to the point where I've had long comment threads where people are afraid of posting because of how upset commenters will get. That's what I'm seeing too much of here, and I'm not afraid to say that it's only going to hurt us more in the long run as people run back to whatever platform they tried to leave.

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  • [–] [S] 17 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

    If I posted "Fuck the Odyssey it was stupid and only NPCs like it" and nothing else, then maybe your distaste with my post (and Lemmy and the internet as a whole) would make more sense. I provided multiple reasons and decent length explanations though.

    I think you chose the wrong post to let this all out in. I understand being upset at people who just exist to hate on popular shit, but that's not the angle I'm coming from and the fact that I focused on multiple reasons with explanations proves it.

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  • [–] 10 points 16 hours ago (1 child)

    Honestly, giving it a B when you feel the dialog is an F is extremely generous, especially for anything that isn’t a silent movie or a Fast and the Furious sequel.

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  • [–] [S] 5 points 15 hours ago

    Yeah, I was feeling kind of generous. Dialogue is really important. But I started thinking about bits and pieces of the movie I did like, which I added as an edit to my original post so it doesn't seem like I'm just trying to hate on it, if the B rating wasn't enough proof.

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  • [–] 4 points 16 hours ago (3 children)

    Maybe people are just tired of hearing about a game that isn't likely to be close to as revolutionary as the marketing claims, and will almost certainly cause the rise in game prices in general.

    Maybe the reason you're seeing negative comments is because people aren't afraid to voice their opinions?
    Pretty sure on most mainstream social media saying bad things about Odyssey and GTA will only earn you insults.

    And there's no bullshit karma here or anything like that, so I don't really see why people would be afraid to comment.

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  • [–] 1 point 16 hours ago (2 children)

    Maybe I'm tired of hearing people complain about GTA when I see way more posts here complaining about it than I do anyone who is interested in actually buying it.

    Pretty sure on most mainstream social media saying bad things about Odyssey and GTA will only earn you insults.

    So it's justified, doing the opposite here. Since they might be doing it that way we should be just as rude to people here, as long as it's in reverse?

    No I don't think so, I think the negativity is exhausting everywhere, and it's infuriating here because we try to claim that we're better than mainstream corporate media but then fall into the same tropes.

    You're right, people aren't "afraid" to voice their opinions when they're "bad" towards Odyssey and GTA. Because on Lemmy that is the popular opinion. Lemmy isn't voicing unpopular opinions, it's voicing extremely popular ones to it's limited audience.

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  • [–] 5 points 16 hours ago (1 child)

    What are you talking about?

    OP says they don't like a thing, explains why, and you're the one coming in here and shitting on them for no reason.
    That's why people are rude to you, not because you dared to speak up.

    If you're against the constant negativity, then maybe try not to contribute to the issue.

    I don't see how telling people to stop voicing negative opinions about popular media is going to help with anything.

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