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[–] 2 points 1 hour ago (1 child)

Without revolution there's a guarantee of societal collapse and possibly extinction.
Exponential growth is not negotiable under capitalism, despite the literal mathematical certainty of where it leads.

It's not just a poor choice of a contemporary ruling class with an abundance of hubris eschewing long term planning, it's baked into the foundational mechanics. Capitalism can't function without it.

I've been watching for over a decade. I've fallen for the same trap, which I could have avoided if only I had read more about what came before. You on the other hand need only not forget recent years.

I've watched the US left "resist" all the way into ever deepening fascism. Watched fascists cheerfully kill for their beliefs while the resistance meekly dies for theirs.
Watched the squad get absorbed by the establishment. Watched the idea of not actively supporting a genocide be dismissed as radical. Watched bipartisan support for banning the platform people were using to learn about the atrocities. Watched the DNC fall over itself looking for excuses as to why they lost to the worst candidate in history.

And I've watched the zeitgeist lag unfathomably far behind what anyone with a heart, brain, and eyes should already understand even if, like me, they lived most of their lives in political ignorance.

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  • [–] [S] 0 points 13 minutes ago

    I understand that the fundamental structures and underlying philosophies of capitalism are inherently toxic to society, humanity, ecosystems, and the planet. You don't have to convince me of that.

    We agree on what the problem is. What we disagree on is the solution.

    And I can see I'm not going to convince you. But unlike you I won't try to berate or goad anyone into doing things my way.

    I start conversations, I contribute what I can and I encourage others to do the same. And increasingly I'm finding it futile to try persuading anyone so far lost among the fringes that they believe the only way forward is violence and chaos.

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