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[–] [S] 2 points 1 day ago (2 children)

But don't forget that Obama and the rest of the Democrats and few progressives at the time did try to get a public option in with the ACA but was cockblocked by neo-liberal Joe Liberman.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 day ago (1 child)

    i suppose the argument here is that there was a lone traitor as to the reason that the dems capitulated to the republicans like always. but that i feel is too charitable a take when we know they count their votes and choose the person to take the fall. shummer and jefferies follow the same tendencies, they just don’t like to be openly blamed for orchestrating their failures. at this point it’s irresponsible to give them the benefit of the doubt.

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  • [–] [S] 1 point 1 day ago

    The argument is simply to remind people that neo-liberals suck. Yeah, there were of course others who were also bitching but they fell in line reluctantly because Obama. Liberman was the one who had the audacity to switch to be independent and tank it outright.

    No, I have no love for centrist and their bullshit, just pointing out centrists are weaklings that will never stand up to the moment.

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