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[–] TrollAccount69@lemmy.ml 1 point 1 day ago (3 children)

There is no reason to be aggressive, insulting and confrontational the way you are.

If you can’t make your point without resorting to personal attacks then consider not replying until you’re cooled off.

It’s pretty clear from what I said that I’m referring to the pc still running fine while multiple ssds have died.

From what I can tell the other components the op references are: the WiFi module. Unfortunately radio baseband chips were well into their implementation without any kind of heat mitigation era when this pc was manufactured. That’s another part that could likely benefit from sticking a heatsink on, lots of desktop motherboards and even some laptops have some kind of heatsink or pad coupling the radio to the chassis. Probably glue a nut to that too, straighten it right out. Radio is even more duty cycle dependent than ssds due to the nature of ip communication. It’s likely what drove thousands of devices to be designed without any way to deal with the heat from those little things. Why spend five times the cost of the chip sticking a sink on there when it’ll just automatically throttle down to protect itself was probably the engineering calculus.

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[–] alottafagina@lemmy.ml 1 point 4 hours ago (2 children)

What does the present +22C leap from expected idle ssd temps signify? How much energy does this take, where is it coming from and how much do you expect it to drop with even a puny 60mm fan circulating air in the area? What does not addressing this signify for overall system lifespan?

It doesn't take much experience to get these answers right (which you have loads of!!!) but it does take skill to be this wilfully dense. Which puts you among that one group of people you always find in any newbie-oriented hardware forum, people who offer bad but seemingly well-meaning advice, but are well-meeaning only up to the point where they have to admit they are wrong at which point they do what you're doing and double down for ego's sake. This deserves ire.

FYI when a real trauma surgeon hears "heart problem", they're thinking beta blockers, blood thinners and vasodilators - you know, the stuff most cardiac patients take that would cause you to bleed out on the operating table without special precautions. An ironic demonstration of your inability to scratch beyond the surface of any given topic. I bet you don't even clean the toilets properly.

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[–] TrollAccount69@lemmy.ml 1 point 3 hours ago (1 child)

It signifies that the ssd is in a passively cooled case without a heatsink.

I’d say adding a heatsink to the ssd will drop the idle temperatures down at least ten degrees (more like fifteen or twenty, but it’s important to not overestimate no matter how optimistic someone might be!). During long transfers is where the real benefit comes in, it’s still possible to get the ssd in the 90c zone but it’s gonna take much, much longer because the package will take forever to heat the heatsink up and the heatsink will much more efficiently dump that heat into the air. That flatter curve is gonna be a huge help to the op because most people aren’t running constant data transfers as fast as their equipment can handle them 24/7, 365. It’s likely op is seeing ssds die when they transfer their 200gb futa SpongeBob memes folder and the temperature spikes up into the 90s for a few minutes, not while serving that folder to all their fellow bikini bottom enthusiasts at the 10gbps lan party. A flatter curve keeps the ssd at a safe temperature longer.

It’s possible that the ops combination of pcie version and usbc revision (it’s a 7th or 8th gen intel iirc) can’t even do enough operations to get the heatsinked ssd up into the water messes up your packages seal zone when making transfers onto or off of it. Internal action will still heat it up as fast as possible though because the snappy ssd controller won’t be checking its watch and tapping its foot while some packet takes precious microseconds to come down the bus.

The computer has been fine. It will probably continue to be fine once the op gets a heatsink on their ssd. They did not ask us to help them price out and build a new computer, but to keep their ssds from dying, and not to repeat myself too much but that’s what a heatsink will do.

Now it’s also possible that their power supply is whats periodically killing their disks but the heat is a good first step.

You really gotta ease up. Insults and rudeness couched in flowery language are no shield. If this is your first time on lemmy, people take that kind of stuff much more serious than on Reddit.

There’s uh, also a pretty flagrant degree of classism in your replies that might not go over well on the left wing servers like ml. Just be aware.

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[–] alottafagina@lemmy.ml 1 point 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

The computer has been fine

It had not.

It will probably continue to be fine .

It would not.

once the op gets a heatsink on their ssd

If you put a heatsink in an oven set to 100C, does it become cooler? Technically, yes, but- "LA LA LA I CANT HEAR YOU!!!"

They did not ask us to help them price out and build a new computer

"Doctor, I'm here for medication for my 4 year long bloody cough."

"Here are your antibiotics and some benadryl. Off you go!" (In comic book villain voice: "You fool! You should've known to ask for an x-ray, ct and all the other doctor-ey things only I could know about! Only a matter of time now rubs hands gleefully as maniacal laughter echoes)

Also, a shitty case with 2 well positioned fans would still have leagues better airflow for a fraction of the cost of a 1TB ssd and a fraction of a fraction of replacing the entire pc.

There’s uh, also a pretty flagrant degree of classism in your replies that might not go over well on the left wing servers like ml. Just be aware.

Is it classism to call someone an asshole for falsely claiming to have experience they do not, defying reason for the sake of ego and all at the expense of someone else? Because if it is, you're still an asshole.

EDIT: Wait. you're right. Even if I was working with your inflated analogy where you likened yourself to a trauma surgeon, comparing you to a janitor was disparaging to extremely hard working people everywhere. I take it back. You're not a janitor. You're the guy that keeps finding their way into the operating theater and masturbating ferociously in the corner.