▲ 177 ▼ Ukraine’s Marines Cross the Dnipro—Storm Russian Positions and Gain Ground (united24media.com) submitted 1 day ago by Zapados@sh.itjust.works to c/world 35 comments fedilink hide all child comments ❤ 1
[–] phuckelon@lemmy.zip 33 points 1 day ago (30 children) Fuck the orcs. Glory to Ukraine! permalink fedilink source hideshow 30 child comments replies: [–] doben@lemmy.ml -3 points 1 day ago (29 children) You're using dehumanizing (a form of othering), racist language, in this case tainted russophobic. United24Media is a major propaganda outlet of the Ukrainian state. Radio Free Europe/Radio Liberty, which provided the initial reporting, is the US's main anti-Russian propaganda outlet and was initially funded by the CIA to agitate against the Soviet Union and still fills this role until today, only against Russia. There's also Radio Free Asia, which is the equivalent for China. These are not trustworthy information. Don't be a racist, gullible tool. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 29 child comments replies: [–] wyldrstallyns@lemmy.dbzer0.com 31 points 1 day ago* (6 children) No one cares if Nazi feelings are hurt. Please take your soapbox to a better use of (y)our time, fellow resistance anon. ✊🏼 Good info re: the notorious agitprop machine, though! Keep awareness up! 🤘🏼 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] doben@lemmy.ml -2 points 1 day ago (5 children) Russians = Nazis = Okay to to be racist about it, got it. Surely the intermediate step is not just a fig leaf for your own racism. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] wyldrstallyns@lemmy.dbzer0.com 22 points 23 hours ago* (3 children) Ah, yes, logical fallacy. Such a smart tactic. 🙄 To clarify for anyone else reading through your bad actor bullshit: Russians doing Nazi shit are motherfucking Nazis. Full stop. Now, kindly find your own ass and stop it from talking. 😙 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] doben@lemmy.ml -2 points 23 hours ago (2 children) Even if that was true, that it would be an actually reasonable analysis to call Russians Nazis, which I won't waste my time on now, you'd still support and use clearly racist language. That's on you, not on me and also not some kind of tactic. And since you have so many suggestions for me, here's one for you: maybe instead of vomiting out twenty dumb comments per hour, start by putting some actual thought into them first. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] wyldrstallyns@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 21 hours ago (1 child) Of course your next tactic is ad hominem? FFS. Do you have a single original thought in there? What a tired & tattered playbook you've got. Bye, cupcake. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] doben@lemmy.ml 0 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) It seems that you have a hard time focusing on the substance, which was the racism, which you excuse by putting an artificial filter in front of it. "If I first denounce them as Nazis/the enemy, it's surely okay to further dehumanize them." You can whine about me showcasing your own logical fallacies and try to make fun of that, but that doesn't change reality. I'm sorry you felt so triggered, when I called out another account for their racism. You might want to look into it. E: Also, a real highlight how you wine about being personally attacked after the demeaning attitude you threw at me before. Tool. permalink fedilink source parent [–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 point 5 hours ago I think the term refers specifically to the Nazi Russians, no? permalink fedilink source parent [–] phuckelon@lemmy.zip 22 points 23 hours ago (3 children) I'm sorry you're sad. Just kidding. Get bent. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] doben@lemmy.ml -2 points 20 hours ago (2 children) No worries, wouldn't expect any actual empathy from a racist. But it is a sad state of affairs, indeed. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] phuckelon@lemmy.zip 8 points 10 hours ago (1 child) Glad you're understanding there's no empathy for Russia. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] doben@lemmy.ml -1 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) I understand your acceptance of being a racist. Get bent. permalink fedilink source parent [–] RudeDuner@lemmy.world 16 points 20 hours ago (1 child) You sound like an orc-bitch permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] doben@lemmy.ml 0 points 19 hours ago You sound like a racist. permalink fedilink source parent [–] minorkeys@sh.itjust.works 11 points 22 hours ago (2 children) K, and if we made the same investigation of you, what would we find? Putin's hand up your butt? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] doben@lemmy.wtf -1 points 19 hours ago (1 child) Putin's hand up your butt? Points out racism and propaganda, gets called Pudding's sock puppet in a sexualized way and to be "investigated"; all by an account that collects bans for serial racism, misogyny and transphobia. Wonderful. Really the least fascist tendencies. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] a_non_monotonic_function@lemmy.world 5 points 18 hours ago It's ok, comrade. We will tell your supervisors that you are doing admirable job. permalink fedilink source parent [–] habitualcynic@lemmy.world 10 points 20 hours ago (4 children) If you love Russia so much, why don’t you marry it? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] doben@lemmy.ml -1 points 19 hours ago (3 children) You realize that's a childish take, right? I stated a few facts, not even sympathy with Russia, surely not any defence of the Russian aggression. But I've heard commentary like that before. It's usually from racists (Zionist) reacting in the very same way, when people show solidarity with Palestinians. They also say "Why don't you go to Gaza, if you love them so much". It's quite deranged. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Knoxvomica@lemmy.ca 7 points 9 hours ago (2 children) Jesus Christ, I don't think you were supposed to respond to this one, but here we are. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] doben@lemmy.ml 0 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (1 child) You certainly should be able to differentiate between "Gaza and Russia are the same" and "The racist mechanic towards the people (of Western enemies) is the same". Are you? If you'd want to discuss how Russia's and Palestine's existence, both are threatened by US and European imperialism, we could do that. But this thread is about the kind of rhetoric people use to dehumanize the other, the evil Hamas or the evil Russian or the evil Mullahs, again, the groups standing in the way of Western hegemony, the enemy we've all learned to hate through media such as the ones mentioned above. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] mefisdo_dot_info@lemmy.ca 4 points 6 hours ago nobody was threatening Ruzzia's existence, except maybe China eyeing Vladivostok and East Siberia. permalink fedilink source parent [–] a_non_monotonic_function@lemmy.world 10 points 22 hours ago (3 children) Ok, but we were all really wondering why you are a little bitch. I see that yiu avoided the question. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] doben@lemmy.ml 0 points 21 hours ago (2 children) Who's "we all"? The racists upvoting this shit, like you? I can live with that. There was no question. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] a_non_monotonic_function@lemmy.world 8 points 18 hours ago* (1 child) So you admt you are a little bitch. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] doben@lemmy.ml 0 points 18 hours ago* Nah, keep wondering. That‘s your role now, the confused bigot. permalink fedilink source parent [–] pluggerslugs@piefed.social 8 points 20 hours ago (1 child) Orcs permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] doben@lemmy.ml 0 points 19 hours ago Equidistant morals based politics and a misunderstanding of the so called authoritarian left usually generally (only) weakens resistance against the Western empire and plays into NATO narratives. But doubling down on racism like a 10 year old, ought to be a new low. I hope you get through it. permalink fedilink source parent [–] mefisdo_dot_info@lemmy.ca 5 points 7 hours ago In fantasy lore orcs are corrupted humans who can interbreed with humans. That is, the term is not dehumanizing. As for the racism argument, orcs are hated because of their actual behavior of killing and looting. Not because of prejudice. It's very much postjudice, unless you read funny fantasy. Exactly how Ruzzians are judged by their actual actions, not by their looks. Your efforts to blend that with racism weakens the fight against actual racism. Shame on you! permalink fedilink source parent [–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 point 5 hours ago It usually seems like it's a specific subset of Russians that's being referred to when that word is used. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] doben@lemmy.ml -3 points 1 day ago (29 children) You're using dehumanizing (a form of othering), racist language, in this case tainted russophobic. United24Media is a major propaganda outlet of the Ukrainian state. Radio Free Europe/Radio Liberty, which provided the initial reporting, is the US's main anti-Russian propaganda outlet and was initially funded by the CIA to agitate against the Soviet Union and still fills this role until today, only against Russia. There's also Radio Free Asia, which is the equivalent for China. These are not trustworthy information. Don't be a racist, gullible tool. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 29 child comments replies: [–] wyldrstallyns@lemmy.dbzer0.com 31 points 1 day ago* (6 children) No one cares if Nazi feelings are hurt. Please take your soapbox to a better use of (y)our time, fellow resistance anon. ✊🏼 Good info re: the notorious agitprop machine, though! Keep awareness up! 🤘🏼 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] doben@lemmy.ml -2 points 1 day ago (5 children) Russians = Nazis = Okay to to be racist about it, got it. Surely the intermediate step is not just a fig leaf for your own racism. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] wyldrstallyns@lemmy.dbzer0.com 22 points 23 hours ago* (3 children) Ah, yes, logical fallacy. Such a smart tactic. 🙄 To clarify for anyone else reading through your bad actor bullshit: Russians doing Nazi shit are motherfucking Nazis. Full stop. Now, kindly find your own ass and stop it from talking. 😙 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] doben@lemmy.ml -2 points 23 hours ago (2 children) Even if that was true, that it would be an actually reasonable analysis to call Russians Nazis, which I won't waste my time on now, you'd still support and use clearly racist language. That's on you, not on me and also not some kind of tactic. And since you have so many suggestions for me, here's one for you: maybe instead of vomiting out twenty dumb comments per hour, start by putting some actual thought into them first. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] wyldrstallyns@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 21 hours ago (1 child) Of course your next tactic is ad hominem? FFS. Do you have a single original thought in there? What a tired & tattered playbook you've got. Bye, cupcake. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] doben@lemmy.ml 0 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) It seems that you have a hard time focusing on the substance, which was the racism, which you excuse by putting an artificial filter in front of it. "If I first denounce them as Nazis/the enemy, it's surely okay to further dehumanize them." You can whine about me showcasing your own logical fallacies and try to make fun of that, but that doesn't change reality. I'm sorry you felt so triggered, when I called out another account for their racism. You might want to look into it. E: Also, a real highlight how you wine about being personally attacked after the demeaning attitude you threw at me before. Tool. permalink fedilink source parent [–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 point 5 hours ago I think the term refers specifically to the Nazi Russians, no? permalink fedilink source parent [–] phuckelon@lemmy.zip 22 points 23 hours ago (3 children) I'm sorry you're sad. Just kidding. Get bent. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] doben@lemmy.ml -2 points 20 hours ago (2 children) No worries, wouldn't expect any actual empathy from a racist. But it is a sad state of affairs, indeed. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] phuckelon@lemmy.zip 8 points 10 hours ago (1 child) Glad you're understanding there's no empathy for Russia. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] doben@lemmy.ml -1 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) I understand your acceptance of being a racist. Get bent. permalink fedilink source parent [–] RudeDuner@lemmy.world 16 points 20 hours ago (1 child) You sound like an orc-bitch permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] doben@lemmy.ml 0 points 19 hours ago You sound like a racist. permalink fedilink source parent [–] minorkeys@sh.itjust.works 11 points 22 hours ago (2 children) K, and if we made the same investigation of you, what would we find? Putin's hand up your butt? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] doben@lemmy.wtf -1 points 19 hours ago (1 child) Putin's hand up your butt? Points out racism and propaganda, gets called Pudding's sock puppet in a sexualized way and to be "investigated"; all by an account that collects bans for serial racism, misogyny and transphobia. Wonderful. Really the least fascist tendencies. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] a_non_monotonic_function@lemmy.world 5 points 18 hours ago It's ok, comrade. We will tell your supervisors that you are doing admirable job. permalink fedilink source parent [–] habitualcynic@lemmy.world 10 points 20 hours ago (4 children) If you love Russia so much, why don’t you marry it? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] doben@lemmy.ml -1 points 19 hours ago (3 children) You realize that's a childish take, right? I stated a few facts, not even sympathy with Russia, surely not any defence of the Russian aggression. But I've heard commentary like that before. It's usually from racists (Zionist) reacting in the very same way, when people show solidarity with Palestinians. They also say "Why don't you go to Gaza, if you love them so much". It's quite deranged. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Knoxvomica@lemmy.ca 7 points 9 hours ago (2 children) Jesus Christ, I don't think you were supposed to respond to this one, but here we are. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] doben@lemmy.ml 0 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (1 child) You certainly should be able to differentiate between "Gaza and Russia are the same" and "The racist mechanic towards the people (of Western enemies) is the same". Are you? If you'd want to discuss how Russia's and Palestine's existence, both are threatened by US and European imperialism, we could do that. But this thread is about the kind of rhetoric people use to dehumanize the other, the evil Hamas or the evil Russian or the evil Mullahs, again, the groups standing in the way of Western hegemony, the enemy we've all learned to hate through media such as the ones mentioned above. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] mefisdo_dot_info@lemmy.ca 4 points 6 hours ago nobody was threatening Ruzzia's existence, except maybe China eyeing Vladivostok and East Siberia. permalink fedilink source parent [–] a_non_monotonic_function@lemmy.world 10 points 22 hours ago (3 children) Ok, but we were all really wondering why you are a little bitch. I see that yiu avoided the question. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] doben@lemmy.ml 0 points 21 hours ago (2 children) Who's "we all"? The racists upvoting this shit, like you? I can live with that. There was no question. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] a_non_monotonic_function@lemmy.world 8 points 18 hours ago* (1 child) So you admt you are a little bitch. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] doben@lemmy.ml 0 points 18 hours ago* Nah, keep wondering. That‘s your role now, the confused bigot. permalink fedilink source parent [–] pluggerslugs@piefed.social 8 points 20 hours ago (1 child) Orcs permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] doben@lemmy.ml 0 points 19 hours ago Equidistant morals based politics and a misunderstanding of the so called authoritarian left usually generally (only) weakens resistance against the Western empire and plays into NATO narratives. But doubling down on racism like a 10 year old, ought to be a new low. I hope you get through it. permalink fedilink source parent [–] mefisdo_dot_info@lemmy.ca 5 points 7 hours ago In fantasy lore orcs are corrupted humans who can interbreed with humans. That is, the term is not dehumanizing. As for the racism argument, orcs are hated because of their actual behavior of killing and looting. Not because of prejudice. It's very much postjudice, unless you read funny fantasy. Exactly how Ruzzians are judged by their actual actions, not by their looks. Your efforts to blend that with racism weakens the fight against actual racism. Shame on you! permalink fedilink source parent [–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 point 5 hours ago It usually seems like it's a specific subset of Russians that's being referred to when that word is used. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] wyldrstallyns@lemmy.dbzer0.com 31 points 1 day ago* (6 children) No one cares if Nazi feelings are hurt. Please take your soapbox to a better use of (y)our time, fellow resistance anon. ✊🏼 Good info re: the notorious agitprop machine, though! Keep awareness up! 🤘🏼 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] doben@lemmy.ml -2 points 1 day ago (5 children) Russians = Nazis = Okay to to be racist about it, got it. Surely the intermediate step is not just a fig leaf for your own racism. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] wyldrstallyns@lemmy.dbzer0.com 22 points 23 hours ago* (3 children) Ah, yes, logical fallacy. Such a smart tactic. 🙄 To clarify for anyone else reading through your bad actor bullshit: Russians doing Nazi shit are motherfucking Nazis. Full stop. Now, kindly find your own ass and stop it from talking. 😙 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] doben@lemmy.ml -2 points 23 hours ago (2 children) Even if that was true, that it would be an actually reasonable analysis to call Russians Nazis, which I won't waste my time on now, you'd still support and use clearly racist language. That's on you, not on me and also not some kind of tactic. And since you have so many suggestions for me, here's one for you: maybe instead of vomiting out twenty dumb comments per hour, start by putting some actual thought into them first. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] wyldrstallyns@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 21 hours ago (1 child) Of course your next tactic is ad hominem? FFS. Do you have a single original thought in there? What a tired & tattered playbook you've got. Bye, cupcake. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] doben@lemmy.ml 0 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) It seems that you have a hard time focusing on the substance, which was the racism, which you excuse by putting an artificial filter in front of it. "If I first denounce them as Nazis/the enemy, it's surely okay to further dehumanize them." You can whine about me showcasing your own logical fallacies and try to make fun of that, but that doesn't change reality. I'm sorry you felt so triggered, when I called out another account for their racism. You might want to look into it. E: Also, a real highlight how you wine about being personally attacked after the demeaning attitude you threw at me before. Tool. permalink fedilink source parent [–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 point 5 hours ago I think the term refers specifically to the Nazi Russians, no? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] doben@lemmy.ml -2 points 1 day ago (5 children) Russians = Nazis = Okay to to be racist about it, got it. Surely the intermediate step is not just a fig leaf for your own racism. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] wyldrstallyns@lemmy.dbzer0.com 22 points 23 hours ago* (3 children) Ah, yes, logical fallacy. Such a smart tactic. 🙄 To clarify for anyone else reading through your bad actor bullshit: Russians doing Nazi shit are motherfucking Nazis. Full stop. Now, kindly find your own ass and stop it from talking. 😙 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] doben@lemmy.ml -2 points 23 hours ago (2 children) Even if that was true, that it would be an actually reasonable analysis to call Russians Nazis, which I won't waste my time on now, you'd still support and use clearly racist language. That's on you, not on me and also not some kind of tactic. And since you have so many suggestions for me, here's one for you: maybe instead of vomiting out twenty dumb comments per hour, start by putting some actual thought into them first. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] wyldrstallyns@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 21 hours ago (1 child) Of course your next tactic is ad hominem? FFS. Do you have a single original thought in there? What a tired & tattered playbook you've got. Bye, cupcake. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] doben@lemmy.ml 0 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) It seems that you have a hard time focusing on the substance, which was the racism, which you excuse by putting an artificial filter in front of it. "If I first denounce them as Nazis/the enemy, it's surely okay to further dehumanize them." You can whine about me showcasing your own logical fallacies and try to make fun of that, but that doesn't change reality. I'm sorry you felt so triggered, when I called out another account for their racism. You might want to look into it. E: Also, a real highlight how you wine about being personally attacked after the demeaning attitude you threw at me before. Tool. permalink fedilink source parent [–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 point 5 hours ago I think the term refers specifically to the Nazi Russians, no? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] wyldrstallyns@lemmy.dbzer0.com 22 points 23 hours ago* (3 children) Ah, yes, logical fallacy. Such a smart tactic. 🙄 To clarify for anyone else reading through your bad actor bullshit: Russians doing Nazi shit are motherfucking Nazis. Full stop. Now, kindly find your own ass and stop it from talking. 😙 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] doben@lemmy.ml -2 points 23 hours ago (2 children) Even if that was true, that it would be an actually reasonable analysis to call Russians Nazis, which I won't waste my time on now, you'd still support and use clearly racist language. That's on you, not on me and also not some kind of tactic. And since you have so many suggestions for me, here's one for you: maybe instead of vomiting out twenty dumb comments per hour, start by putting some actual thought into them first. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] wyldrstallyns@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 21 hours ago (1 child) Of course your next tactic is ad hominem? FFS. Do you have a single original thought in there? What a tired & tattered playbook you've got. Bye, cupcake. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] doben@lemmy.ml 0 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) It seems that you have a hard time focusing on the substance, which was the racism, which you excuse by putting an artificial filter in front of it. "If I first denounce them as Nazis/the enemy, it's surely okay to further dehumanize them." You can whine about me showcasing your own logical fallacies and try to make fun of that, but that doesn't change reality. I'm sorry you felt so triggered, when I called out another account for their racism. You might want to look into it. E: Also, a real highlight how you wine about being personally attacked after the demeaning attitude you threw at me before. Tool. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] doben@lemmy.ml -2 points 23 hours ago (2 children) Even if that was true, that it would be an actually reasonable analysis to call Russians Nazis, which I won't waste my time on now, you'd still support and use clearly racist language. That's on you, not on me and also not some kind of tactic. And since you have so many suggestions for me, here's one for you: maybe instead of vomiting out twenty dumb comments per hour, start by putting some actual thought into them first. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] wyldrstallyns@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 21 hours ago (1 child) Of course your next tactic is ad hominem? FFS. Do you have a single original thought in there? What a tired & tattered playbook you've got. Bye, cupcake. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] doben@lemmy.ml 0 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) It seems that you have a hard time focusing on the substance, which was the racism, which you excuse by putting an artificial filter in front of it. "If I first denounce them as Nazis/the enemy, it's surely okay to further dehumanize them." You can whine about me showcasing your own logical fallacies and try to make fun of that, but that doesn't change reality. I'm sorry you felt so triggered, when I called out another account for their racism. You might want to look into it. E: Also, a real highlight how you wine about being personally attacked after the demeaning attitude you threw at me before. Tool. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] wyldrstallyns@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 21 hours ago (1 child) Of course your next tactic is ad hominem? FFS. Do you have a single original thought in there? What a tired & tattered playbook you've got. Bye, cupcake. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] doben@lemmy.ml 0 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) It seems that you have a hard time focusing on the substance, which was the racism, which you excuse by putting an artificial filter in front of it. "If I first denounce them as Nazis/the enemy, it's surely okay to further dehumanize them." You can whine about me showcasing your own logical fallacies and try to make fun of that, but that doesn't change reality. I'm sorry you felt so triggered, when I called out another account for their racism. You might want to look into it. E: Also, a real highlight how you wine about being personally attacked after the demeaning attitude you threw at me before. Tool. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] doben@lemmy.ml 0 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) It seems that you have a hard time focusing on the substance, which was the racism, which you excuse by putting an artificial filter in front of it. "If I first denounce them as Nazis/the enemy, it's surely okay to further dehumanize them." You can whine about me showcasing your own logical fallacies and try to make fun of that, but that doesn't change reality. I'm sorry you felt so triggered, when I called out another account for their racism. You might want to look into it. E: Also, a real highlight how you wine about being personally attacked after the demeaning attitude you threw at me before. Tool. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 point 5 hours ago I think the term refers specifically to the Nazi Russians, no? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] phuckelon@lemmy.zip 22 points 23 hours ago (3 children) I'm sorry you're sad. Just kidding. Get bent. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] doben@lemmy.ml -2 points 20 hours ago (2 children) No worries, wouldn't expect any actual empathy from a racist. But it is a sad state of affairs, indeed. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] phuckelon@lemmy.zip 8 points 10 hours ago (1 child) Glad you're understanding there's no empathy for Russia. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] doben@lemmy.ml -1 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) I understand your acceptance of being a racist. Get bent. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] doben@lemmy.ml -2 points 20 hours ago (2 children) No worries, wouldn't expect any actual empathy from a racist. But it is a sad state of affairs, indeed. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] phuckelon@lemmy.zip 8 points 10 hours ago (1 child) Glad you're understanding there's no empathy for Russia. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] doben@lemmy.ml -1 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) I understand your acceptance of being a racist. Get bent. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] phuckelon@lemmy.zip 8 points 10 hours ago (1 child) Glad you're understanding there's no empathy for Russia. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] doben@lemmy.ml -1 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) I understand your acceptance of being a racist. Get bent. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] doben@lemmy.ml -1 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) I understand your acceptance of being a racist. Get bent. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] RudeDuner@lemmy.world 16 points 20 hours ago (1 child) You sound like an orc-bitch permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] doben@lemmy.ml 0 points 19 hours ago You sound like a racist. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] minorkeys@sh.itjust.works 11 points 22 hours ago (2 children) K, and if we made the same investigation of you, what would we find? Putin's hand up your butt? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] doben@lemmy.wtf -1 points 19 hours ago (1 child) Putin's hand up your butt? Points out racism and propaganda, gets called Pudding's sock puppet in a sexualized way and to be "investigated"; all by an account that collects bans for serial racism, misogyny and transphobia. Wonderful. Really the least fascist tendencies. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] a_non_monotonic_function@lemmy.world 5 points 18 hours ago It's ok, comrade. We will tell your supervisors that you are doing admirable job. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] doben@lemmy.wtf -1 points 19 hours ago (1 child) Putin's hand up your butt? Points out racism and propaganda, gets called Pudding's sock puppet in a sexualized way and to be "investigated"; all by an account that collects bans for serial racism, misogyny and transphobia. Wonderful. Really the least fascist tendencies. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] a_non_monotonic_function@lemmy.world 5 points 18 hours ago It's ok, comrade. We will tell your supervisors that you are doing admirable job. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] a_non_monotonic_function@lemmy.world 5 points 18 hours ago It's ok, comrade. We will tell your supervisors that you are doing admirable job. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] habitualcynic@lemmy.world 10 points 20 hours ago (4 children) If you love Russia so much, why don’t you marry it? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] doben@lemmy.ml -1 points 19 hours ago (3 children) You realize that's a childish take, right? I stated a few facts, not even sympathy with Russia, surely not any defence of the Russian aggression. But I've heard commentary like that before. It's usually from racists (Zionist) reacting in the very same way, when people show solidarity with Palestinians. They also say "Why don't you go to Gaza, if you love them so much". It's quite deranged. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Knoxvomica@lemmy.ca 7 points 9 hours ago (2 children) Jesus Christ, I don't think you were supposed to respond to this one, but here we are. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] doben@lemmy.ml 0 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (1 child) You certainly should be able to differentiate between "Gaza and Russia are the same" and "The racist mechanic towards the people (of Western enemies) is the same". Are you? If you'd want to discuss how Russia's and Palestine's existence, both are threatened by US and European imperialism, we could do that. But this thread is about the kind of rhetoric people use to dehumanize the other, the evil Hamas or the evil Russian or the evil Mullahs, again, the groups standing in the way of Western hegemony, the enemy we've all learned to hate through media such as the ones mentioned above. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] mefisdo_dot_info@lemmy.ca 4 points 6 hours ago nobody was threatening Ruzzia's existence, except maybe China eyeing Vladivostok and East Siberia. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] doben@lemmy.ml -1 points 19 hours ago (3 children) You realize that's a childish take, right? I stated a few facts, not even sympathy with Russia, surely not any defence of the Russian aggression. But I've heard commentary like that before. It's usually from racists (Zionist) reacting in the very same way, when people show solidarity with Palestinians. They also say "Why don't you go to Gaza, if you love them so much". It's quite deranged. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Knoxvomica@lemmy.ca 7 points 9 hours ago (2 children) Jesus Christ, I don't think you were supposed to respond to this one, but here we are. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] doben@lemmy.ml 0 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (1 child) You certainly should be able to differentiate between "Gaza and Russia are the same" and "The racist mechanic towards the people (of Western enemies) is the same". Are you? If you'd want to discuss how Russia's and Palestine's existence, both are threatened by US and European imperialism, we could do that. But this thread is about the kind of rhetoric people use to dehumanize the other, the evil Hamas or the evil Russian or the evil Mullahs, again, the groups standing in the way of Western hegemony, the enemy we've all learned to hate through media such as the ones mentioned above. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] mefisdo_dot_info@lemmy.ca 4 points 6 hours ago nobody was threatening Ruzzia's existence, except maybe China eyeing Vladivostok and East Siberia. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Knoxvomica@lemmy.ca 7 points 9 hours ago (2 children) Jesus Christ, I don't think you were supposed to respond to this one, but here we are. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] doben@lemmy.ml 0 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (1 child) You certainly should be able to differentiate between "Gaza and Russia are the same" and "The racist mechanic towards the people (of Western enemies) is the same". Are you? If you'd want to discuss how Russia's and Palestine's existence, both are threatened by US and European imperialism, we could do that. But this thread is about the kind of rhetoric people use to dehumanize the other, the evil Hamas or the evil Russian or the evil Mullahs, again, the groups standing in the way of Western hegemony, the enemy we've all learned to hate through media such as the ones mentioned above. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] mefisdo_dot_info@lemmy.ca 4 points 6 hours ago nobody was threatening Ruzzia's existence, except maybe China eyeing Vladivostok and East Siberia. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] doben@lemmy.ml 0 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (1 child) You certainly should be able to differentiate between "Gaza and Russia are the same" and "The racist mechanic towards the people (of Western enemies) is the same". Are you? If you'd want to discuss how Russia's and Palestine's existence, both are threatened by US and European imperialism, we could do that. But this thread is about the kind of rhetoric people use to dehumanize the other, the evil Hamas or the evil Russian or the evil Mullahs, again, the groups standing in the way of Western hegemony, the enemy we've all learned to hate through media such as the ones mentioned above. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] mefisdo_dot_info@lemmy.ca 4 points 6 hours ago nobody was threatening Ruzzia's existence, except maybe China eyeing Vladivostok and East Siberia. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] mefisdo_dot_info@lemmy.ca 4 points 6 hours ago nobody was threatening Ruzzia's existence, except maybe China eyeing Vladivostok and East Siberia. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] a_non_monotonic_function@lemmy.world 10 points 22 hours ago (3 children) Ok, but we were all really wondering why you are a little bitch. I see that yiu avoided the question. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] doben@lemmy.ml 0 points 21 hours ago (2 children) Who's "we all"? The racists upvoting this shit, like you? I can live with that. There was no question. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] a_non_monotonic_function@lemmy.world 8 points 18 hours ago* (1 child) So you admt you are a little bitch. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] doben@lemmy.ml 0 points 18 hours ago* Nah, keep wondering. That‘s your role now, the confused bigot. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] doben@lemmy.ml 0 points 21 hours ago (2 children) Who's "we all"? The racists upvoting this shit, like you? I can live with that. There was no question. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] a_non_monotonic_function@lemmy.world 8 points 18 hours ago* (1 child) So you admt you are a little bitch. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] doben@lemmy.ml 0 points 18 hours ago* Nah, keep wondering. That‘s your role now, the confused bigot. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] a_non_monotonic_function@lemmy.world 8 points 18 hours ago* (1 child) So you admt you are a little bitch. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] doben@lemmy.ml 0 points 18 hours ago* Nah, keep wondering. That‘s your role now, the confused bigot. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] doben@lemmy.ml 0 points 18 hours ago* Nah, keep wondering. That‘s your role now, the confused bigot. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] pluggerslugs@piefed.social 8 points 20 hours ago (1 child) Orcs permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] doben@lemmy.ml 0 points 19 hours ago Equidistant morals based politics and a misunderstanding of the so called authoritarian left usually generally (only) weakens resistance against the Western empire and plays into NATO narratives. But doubling down on racism like a 10 year old, ought to be a new low. I hope you get through it. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] doben@lemmy.ml 0 points 19 hours ago Equidistant morals based politics and a misunderstanding of the so called authoritarian left usually generally (only) weakens resistance against the Western empire and plays into NATO narratives. But doubling down on racism like a 10 year old, ought to be a new low. I hope you get through it. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] mefisdo_dot_info@lemmy.ca 5 points 7 hours ago In fantasy lore orcs are corrupted humans who can interbreed with humans. That is, the term is not dehumanizing. As for the racism argument, orcs are hated because of their actual behavior of killing and looting. Not because of prejudice. It's very much postjudice, unless you read funny fantasy. Exactly how Ruzzians are judged by their actual actions, not by their looks. Your efforts to blend that with racism weakens the fight against actual racism. Shame on you! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 point 5 hours ago It usually seems like it's a specific subset of Russians that's being referred to when that word is used. permalink fedilink source parent