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[–] 13 points 2 days ago (7 children)

If the guy getting money for the toy, paid the people actually making the toy what they're worth, there wouldn't be billionaires. Your premise is flawed because you assume billionaires are good people who worked for their gains, when in reality every single billionaire in excistance has abused their workers, at minimum, by not paying them their actual worth.

Add to that the psychotic greed. When they reached say 500 million, why keep hording more money? They could lower the price of the product to the point of being a non profit, or paying their employees instead of themselves. They would never need more money in their life, but no, they'd rather hoard money, than let their employees live as comfortably as themselves.

There are no ethical billionaires.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 days ago

    Add to that the psychotic greed. When they reached say 500 million, why keep hording more money?

    Because they have a mental illness, OCD manifesting as a financial hoarding syndrome. They have a compulsion to accumulate more, despite not needing it at all, and despite the fact that their growing fortune may even be damaging society. They would literally kill people, if it meant more money in the bank accounts.

    So imagine what they'll be like when they start converting to Trillionaires? They'll be able to afford their own militaries, especially if they form alliances. Then they can create or conquer their own sovereign nations, and really start fucking things up.

    Billionaires are dangerous enough. We cannot allow Trillionaires to join the "More Money Than Brains Club."

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  • [+] -13 points 2 days ago* (6 children)
  • [–] 9 points 2 days ago* (1 child)

    Man A is abusing Man B's ignorance of his own worth. Man A is also colluding with his competitors to make sure Man B can't make more anywhere else. Man A is also always, always, ALWAYS, supressing Man B's opportunities to unite with his fellow workers, either by union busting, or by lobbying to destroy the education system that would allow Man B to inform himself of his actual worth.

    But I guess if we only look at billionaires with a 2 dimensional perspective, and ignore all the things they do to make sure their employees couldn't possibly demand more money, then billionaires look like they're just giving people job opportunities...

    But if they paid their employees their worth, they may only have money for the next 20 generations instead of 40....

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    See that's where I think you're fundamentally wrong. I think every single person has an intrinsic value, and no person is worth more than anyone else. I don't think it's up to the owner to decide what other people are worth, since his own worth would then be dependant on convincing other people they're worth less.

    I also think you're showing the exact ignorance I'm talking about by arguing what you're arguing. Ignorance isn't about being retarded, or stupid. Every single person is ignorant about something. We can't all know everything. You're showing ignorance by arguing that some people's lives are worth much more than your own, simply because they happen to own more. How many rich people are rich because they managed to create something worthy? And how many rich people are rich because their parents were rich, because THEIR parents were rich? Would you be able to be rich and make a great company if you started life with 500 million from your parents? If you did, would your life and comfort be more important than everyone else's?

    I think you're fundamentally wrong in your assumption that any rich person has any worth, and I think it's fundamentally wrong, that anyone's comfort, life or access to basic necessities is less important than any other person.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 days ago (1 child)

    there is no choice if you are threatened with death

    this is why people cant consent if they are coerced and/or threatened

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  • [–] 1 point 2 days ago (1 child)

    Man B HAS to agree to the wage because he will starve if he does not. Man A exploits this fact to underpay him

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