i absolutely hate how the modern web just fails to load if one has javascript turned off. i, as a user, should be able to switch off javascript and have the site work exactly as it does with javascript turned on. it's not a hard concept, people.

but you ask candidates to explain "graceful degradation" and they'll sit and look at you with a blank stare.

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[–] 61 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Blame the ui frameworks like react for this. It’s normalized a large cross-section of devs not learning anything about how a server works. They’ve essentially grown up with a calculator without ever having to learn long division.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Not all frameworks are bad

    The problem is the devs/owners not understanding basic fundamentals. They could see a major financial benefit if they make the page snappy and light but apparently no one at these companies realizes that.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    PE from server rendering only to a full interactive SPA in the browser is really not trivial both for frameworks and app devs

    there are a handful of frameworks that support it fairly ergonomically now but it's a discipline that takes time and effort

    also disabling javascript is a tiny minority use case

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