Turbonics comments on It is fucking WILD to me that an instance ban on a completely other instance can result in post removals in other instances

It is fucking WILD to me that an instance ban on a completely other instance can result in post removals in other instances (lemmy.sdf.org)

submitted 1 week ago by wesker@lemmy.sdf.org to c/rant@lemmy.sdf.org

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@evenwicht@lemmy.sdf.org complained about this the other day, but I just experienced it first-hand.

A lemmy.world user got instance-banned on lemmy.world, and the result was their post in one of my communities created and based on lemmy.sdf.org got automatically removed. How the fuck is that a sanctioned inter-instance functionality?

That's absolutely squirrel turds to me. It sort-of makes sense if my own instance admin were to ban that user, but reaching across instance lines to nuke posts is just wild. That feels like it blurs the lines of what federation should entail, and also is just rife for abuse.

[–] imeansurewhynot@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (7 children)

How can that happen? I thought each instance was governed and... stored(don't understand lemmy) by its own admin.

Cross Instance manipulation seems antithetical to the decentralized nature of Lemmy.

How does their instance reach over and change another instance?

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[–] snowe@programming.dev 14 points 1 week ago (3 children)

It’s because an instance ban is a major action usually reserved for bots or pedophiles spreading bad things. If every single admin had to remove that user and their posts it would allow bots to spread things like wildfire and for CSAM to stay up for an indefinite amount of time.

It’s much better and safer for the entire fediverse that instance bans propagate deletions.

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[–] Turbonics@lemmy.sdf.org 1 point 1 week ago (1 child)

But that's not how it's used. It's used for users admins politically disagree with.

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[–] snowe@programming.dev 1 point 3 days ago

It is how it’s used. The majority of bans are bots. Just because some happen to be ones admins disagree with doesn’t negate the fact that the majority of bans are bots or trolls. Also most admin bans for disagreements come from ml and grad, not anywhere else.