Im looking for a first car for about 3500€ which can hopefully last a few years daily commuting During my apprenticeship

Now, I come from a Toyota family, since they are reliable af in the engine Department, even if they (at least the yaris and prius from the 00s) drive pretty badly

But the aygos sold here for that price have extremely high mileage (as in 160k+), and even if they have been treated for Rust, which they have probably not knowing the people who drive a 2006 aygo base model without aircon), it tends to be very noticeable on the inside of the car and all the nice to have stuff

Now, I've been looking at the VW golf 3 door from about 03, they go for about 2800€ Max for like 100k, but from what I've heard VW, Audi and the likes tend to die around 100k, but they are just so great in every other aspect

So now I'm looking for comments from the car gods.

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[–] 2 points 19 hours ago

There is a reason the VW is much cheaper with much lower mileage. The saying goes "payments or maintenance", and when your initial purchase price is that low, it's gonna be maintenance. And my God do VAG products have HIGH maintenance costs. Parts are expensive, labor is expensive, and yes they begin having tons of issues around 100k miles/160k km..

Remember your first car is your FIRST. Stop looking at features beyond "does it drive down the road" because at the end of the day, those "nice" features don't matter to get you places. Later in life when you have more free cash you can start looking at niceties, or even modding the car you already have. Right now you need the most rock solid mechanicals you can get and everything else is secondary.

160k km (?) is not high mileage at all in my mind, especially for Japanese built toyotas. Almost everything I own in the US spread across Chevrolet, Honda, Cadillac and Subaru has more than 200k American miles (321k km) and is more than 20 years old, and while they've all needed some wear out maintenance, they all run and drive fine.

You just have to be scrupulous about inspecting whatever you buy. I try to avoid car lots and buy private party sales only. I don't know how Europe is but US used car lots are wretched hellholes that usually are trying to flip damaged auction or repo cars as quickly as possible with high markups. Have a mechanic you trust do a real inspection to the car before purchasing- getting it up on a lift to poke around underneath, dip fluids, and check for hidden damage is ABSOLUTELY critical.

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