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[–] 2 points 4 days ago (13 children)

Yeah, character customization makes me happy...Gets me immersed into a title.

I will have to look into Infomaniak myself, as I am still uncertain about them myself. A company can do good things to mask the not so great things going on in the background...I won't make up my mind yet. Honestly, I just view the GenAI vibe-coding of software to be slop, the use of the hard work of others (often scraped from open source projects) to fuel a not healthy movement in open source. I will not be touching a single one of those tainted warez, a funny note is that the corpo made and peddled models are already coming out with restrictions to stop people from doing this. Because, that would mean corporations would be facing the consequences of their own actions, as they have abused their customers for years. It does give me the ick, but, this is a natural consequence of tech that was pushed to market way too fast without actually considering the ramifications of doing so. China and other countries are essentially doing a nasty surveillance and likely cyber-crime related stuff true, but with their own economic system powering it (despite them losing money on AI).

I feel very much like a Luddite in many respects about technology; I can't see anything good about the current state of so called AI (really gassed up LLMs), it's causing too much damage and that our political systems cannot fully restrain because politicians aren't able to keep up with or are being bought by the technofascist elite. I think that I will never see anything positive about the tech, even if they do clean it up. As...The ability to exploit, manipulate, generate so much nastiness within a short span of time is disturbing.

Unfortunately, there are also a lot of projects that do indeed have some elements of vibe-coding/or LLM-assisted programming. The Linux Kernel itself is being tinkered with using LLMs, that spreads a taint to every distro by default (at least those who use the mainline kernel). Even systemd is being developed using LLMs, most distros incorporate that init system within them, so that also is another source of taint. Which is why I had been trying to install Gentoo, while they do use a slightly older kernel...Their default init system, OpenRC has a no AI commitment. I might try to find another distro that is at least a bit easier to install and without systemd so I can feel less awful about using Linux. Maybe, Chimera Linux (and eat the musl libc tax). The reason why I say taint, is because I worry about the code being generated, how it cannot be properly licensed and it will add technical debt over time. People might not be able to explain or understand that code in the future when LLMs will possibly be abandoned.

Not a good look to be honest, with Bazzite I found two instances of direct use of Copilot. Copilot Use One, ujust commit and Copilot Use Two, feat(portal). I could probably find more if I tried, but, they are clearly eager to use Copilot for things that a person can easily do. It would just be 'boring'. This is the direct distro which is built using ublue-os (the foundation of Bluefin and Aurora immutable distros too as Bazzite is directly related to both of them), fundamental parts of Bazzite being affected by LLMs (often called AI). But again, I don't use Bazzite, so no skin off my nose.

Yeah, I think kindness will go a long way towards making life easier. Just having low cortisol discussions. Like, I hope that I am not talking in a charged way in this case. I am sharing what occupies my mind on occasion. ROFL Ugh, it is a strange time to be alive.

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  • [–] 1 point 4 days ago (12 children)

    You really think that corpo putting restrictions are gonna stop them ? China make far more efficient models than them that are open-source, it's just a matter of time before prompter use an open-source model to do it (that's if Sam didn't take their RAM). In some instances, I'm happy to see companies facing what they've been pushing for turning back to them, even if I won't be using vibecoded software (cause from experience it's not reliable and full of mistakes). I just want the AI bubble to explode and genAI companies to close the doors (except for the one that actually are useful, but their super niche and nobody know about them, plus it probably won't be what you think about).

    I think the development of LLM should have been stopped long ago. This way we wouldn't have something that put humanity in danger and we could have find a use for it as its performances would be very restrictive (no be able to spy on people and need a lot of guidance to be useful while saving on ressources).

    I thought that what Linus said about the use of LLM for Linux would have helped to keep away this kind of thing.

    I have no idea what those use are about. I'm not a tech nerd, the best I do is HTML. I just hope they won't be using LLM to make future updates and develop the system. I still need it to be reliable and not cause issues on my hardware (compared to my previous experience with Arch lol).

    It's hard to tell with text, which can be both be a good and bad thing. I try to understand text with the least amount of emotion as I don't want to think wether the person that sent the message was sangry or not. So far it has worked well, but sometime it needs a lot of energy and effort to read objectively. Also, it always has been a strange time to be alive.

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  • [–] 2 points 4 days ago (11 children)

    While Corpos are pretty desperate for LLMs, putting enough roadblocks, costs, and other barriers in place will deter them. The profit seeking fools will chase a new god to bring them everlasting wealth, as they always have. Eh, China also makes unsafe models and ones that lie about confirmed points in history that China doesn't like to acknowledge because it goes against their narratives. Propaganda through tech, but to the LLM lovers, their models are efficient and do run on lower spec machines easier. The bubble will burst because they can't sustain the momentum and financial investment that they've poured into this. It isn't making them money, it costs them money. NVIDIA is the only one who has actually made any profit out of this, because they sell the hardware needed for Data Centers. NVIDIA then invests in the ChudAI companies to keep them floating just above the disaster line. However, the parasites are panicking because not enough people are paying the prices needed to keep this whole sham afloat. They are hemorrhaging capital at a rate which makes investors wary.

    Yeah, I think LLMs should've been used for their original purpose: The processing of language, understanding how it is used, etc. The current usage that the corpos are using it for are...Disturbing and honestly aren't going to help humanity overall, its just a big grift and that makes me sad. They are trying to find a way to channel skill into their hands and deprive the skill of wealth, it's become a Torment Nexus of disenfranchisement, spying, misinformation, disinformation all in one. A very useful thing for those with ill intentions, malicious actors immediately leapt upon those things and wreak havoc with gassed up LLMs.

    Linus, was naturally wrong, I think he is probably in the early stages of AI induced psychosis...It hasn't reduced his ability and technical skill yet. But I fear it will in time, the more he trusts gassed up LLM outputs. It already shows with his mandates for Kernel Development, it is open season for technofascists behind AI.

    Personally, I am more of a troubleshooter, that does have a kind of ability with figuring stuff out (reading documentation + reading the error messages) who is also learning Python, I will learn C as well. I have been using Garuda Linux (Arch-based, BTW) it's pretty solid and wonderful, save for the bane of systemd. I can't say that it isn't problem free for me, as I have a lot of small but resolvable issues (often taking no more than an hour of reading and a few minutes of pinpointing and implementing the fix). However, immutable distros are fairly solid too, it is just a shame that Bazzite got compromised as well. But, it is what it is. As long as it doesn't completely become a vibe-coded mess like Bluefin is transitioning into, you'll probably be fine for the time being. For me, I love them because there were ways of doing the same things you could on regular distros, so it was as if you were just using a regular distro (but you aren't). I think from a security perspective, they are really good. But the container dependencies need to be unslopped before I decide to install one again, because I don't want to have any AI touched thing on my computer.

    HTML is nerd sphere stuff, so you can't sell yourself short, it's just human readable like Python is (which Python can easily integrate with HTML for web stuff).

    Yeah, when I am typing rarely do I actually feel pressed or angry, I am just trying to state my opinions in a way that someone else can understand. Thinking with clarity and peace is honestly helpful to this end.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 day ago (10 children)

    I do hope their bubble will burst, a lot of people are saying it's happening, and I hope so. But if it's happening, it might last for long. And I think Nvidia is in a bad position since the reveal of the CEO of the company has cheated on his wife with a Chinese spy.

    What you mentionned, funningly enough, reminds me of Linus takes on privacy. And yet every privacy conscious people use Linux. But yeah, I'm scared of LLM ruining Linux.

    Yeah I do understand your point. I don't really like to read entire logs of messages and prefer to know where to look and how to understand it.

    I was saying that cause to me and most people I know, HTML is the most basic thing when it comes to programming, I've never really learned python even though it's easily understandable.

    I listen to metal, often it helps to get the anger out, my sounds like a paradox but it does work for me.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 day ago (9 children)

    Their bubble was unsustainable from the beginning, it was doomed to fail...But it might have bigger consequences than they'd imagine. Someone might suffer worse than others in this case. NVIDIA is probably the best in terms of cash flow, a small scandal like that won't hurt them terribly, despite it being worrying. I doubt he ever invited the spy to his actual office. And if he did...Well, that would be a real problem.

    Yeah, Linux can actually be useful for those who are seeking privacy, as there are configuration options which can help protect it. While LLMs might ruin the mainline Kernel and most distros through dependencies. There are independent distros doing their best to act as a wave break! There are microkernels and other alternative kernels that can be harnessed to lessen the damaging blow that an old dude that has lost his fucking mind can do.

    HTML and CSS might be basic, but they enable the whole pretty display of the web...Simplicity can be powerful and you shouldn't sell yourself short just because of that.

    Yeah, it takes time and effort to read, to pick out the pieces, etc. It's a chore but...Eh, I just wanted to present it to you. To show I wasn't just talking out of my butt.

    I love metal for that very reason, any music that matches the negative mood I feel, it relaxes me. It's a healthy vehicle for my emotions that I cannot express, lets them be channeled out in a peaceful way that doesn't disturb anyone!

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  • [–] 1 point 1 day ago (8 children)

    Yeah, they were for the AI team from the beginning, of course they made a lot of money. I wouldn't be surprise if the spy went to Nvidia's office tho...

    But then, it would be dangerous as the mainline kernel might get a lot of vulnerabilities fix that might not be the case for the microkernels, unless there's something I'm missing of course.

    I don't know, I should really put my head back into HTML and finish my website before I publish it online.

    Yeah, I understand, I like to read documentation, except when I can't understand them (which happen 80% of the time). It's part of the reason on how I can't fix things myself.

    Metal and dubstep are seen as violent, so I'm used to people not recommending those styles to calm you down as it "drives people violent" (not sure about that, at least I didn't dig into it). But I do listen to rock and lofi more often than I listen to metal and dubstep.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 day ago (7 children)

    Yep, NVIDIA were behind it, as they saw a chance to gain capital, prestige, investment, power, etc. Tale old as time shit.

    Fixes can be applied to microkernels just as much as the mainline kernel, the difference is that not as many people would be needed to maintain a microkernel. The scale is smaller and manageable, bugs, critical issues are easier to see and diagnose. Complexity scales down in that case, the Mainline Kernel is massive and complex, makes it harder to work with which is why there are so few large kernels out there as it takes a lot of manpower to maintain them.

    Yeah, I feel like you should when you are ready to do HTML and get your website online!

    I like to read documentation too, I also sometimes understand it after giving it a few reads. Looking up unfamiliar words. I am used to implementing fixes in my distros by now (previously Windows as well, where it was harder because the Windows Registry is fucking shit). Arch is basically easy mode at this point. I encounter very few things that I cannot fix easily. But my installed software and dependencies isn't that complicated so...It is easy to manage.

    While Metal and Dubstep are seen as violent (the lyrics can sometimes be) I don't feel they are inherently. They are just charged forms of expression, passionate, which gives them an edge that most forms of music don't have. I listen to almost all forms of music outside of most rap and country. I like Orville Peck for Country, and a select few rap artists, but not many.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 day ago (6 children)

    I still remember when Nvidia said they were gonna stop carrying about gamers, I got scared that AMD turns into Intel, but no, they still don't have the monopole and Nvidia still continue to make gamers' GPU.

    I see, I do hope the best for every kernel. One day Linux will be the perfect kernel Linux is the perfect kernel, just need it not to turn into shit and be secured.

    I did HTML before, I just haven't practiced in two~three month, which is concerning when you want to make a website. I don't even remember what I have to finish on my website.

    For Arch it's a good thing that the wiki and documentation is complete and well explained, but when I want to fix something, sometimes I just don't want to spend 2h or 3h reading docs and trying to fix it. And sometime asking people for help is also one of the biggest loss of time I did.

    I don't listen much to rap, sometime, but not often. I probably listen more to metal than I listen to rap. And I don't listen to country at all.

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  • [–] 2 points 17 hours ago (5 children)

    Yeah, I remember it to which is why I basically decided to say, "Screw NVIDIA!" and basically can't be bothered with them anymore. If they can easily forget what made them popular due to a temporary gold rush...They can get buggered when the gold rush dies down. AMD is...Doing AMD things, classic not taking advantage of the situation and being cool AF. Instead, they are being weird as always. But at least we have open source drivers for their hardware so I don't find it as concerning as with NVIDIA. Intel...Well, I don't know about that one, they are being weird lately too.

    Yeah, I think there is a chance for every kernel but the mainline, until the AI bubble bursts, and the technical debt gets to be so great they have to simply reset the whole damn thing to fix it. The outliers are going to be a lot healthier because they aren't being developed using AI filth, and instead people power. Carefully, at a pace that makes the most sense for the team at hand. In languages they are familiar with. There will be no perfect kernel, but there will be good to great ones based on use case.

    Hmm, well, a refresher is always in order. I tend to do have an episode that leads to accidental forgetting to do the thing. I also document my stuff well enough that I know where I actually stopped in case of a long gap in-between what I was working on does happen. Maybe a good practice so that you may recall stuff in the future.

    Yeah, Arch is pretty good about that...With more experience, that troubleshooting gap can shrink. I dunno, it is up to you on that one. I won't try to convince you of anything. LOL Asking people for help can be the greatest boon or bane depending on the group.

    Yeah, Rap is a rare genre listen for me, the poetic element is mostly tainted with topics that don't particularly communicate interesting ideas or experiences to me, these days. Country is really only Orville Peck, as he is one of the few, that I can stand to listen to. He sings about really fascinating subject matter, that transcends the normal genre barrier for me, so this curious shork listens.

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  • [–] 1 point 6 hours ago (4 children)

    I won't buy Nvidia stuff in the future, unless it's the least expensive (like it was the case for my actual computer). I did heard about a Chinese brand that's gonna try to sell in the western, the performance are not top of the line but worst it for the price.

    Yeah, still wish for the bubble to burst very soon, even though I doubt it will have an effect on people that use local LLM... (maybe it will, I don't know)

    I have lots of comments, that's not the issue, I understand myself...I just need to reread the entire code to understand what I mean. At some point I'll have so many comments that my code will be brain dead to understand 😹

    The only help I asked is to fix the OBS issue I have, but I doubt anybody will ever see my request at this point...

    Rap tend to be about, well, dehumanizing topics, so not very good for me. I should give it a try then 👀

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  • [–] 2 points 6 hours ago (3 children)

    Yeah, that is the choice I decided upon as well. Just don't buy NVIDIA. I will likely settle on Intel and AMD because they both have open source drivers.

    No, it won't affect Local LLM use, but it will destroy the most offending usage which is corporate LLMs that power unsavory things, that has a knock on effect on the limiting the damage to open source.

    LOL Good luck, seems like you have a task ahead of you!

    Hmm..Yeah, OBS is something I haven't worked with firsthand so I have little knowledge on how to fix it personally. So I couldn't say either way. I might have seen it but breezed by it because immutable distros complicate matters a bit too much to make troubleshooting particularly easy.

    Rap does tend to be dehumanizing in subject matter, you just have to find the rappers who are rapping about topics that matter. Like breaking cycles of oppression, cool shit, etc. Hard to find given what is boosted by the music industry at the moment. I think Orville Peck in terms of country is the best (only starting point) he is so fascinating in terms of a singer/songwriter.

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  • [–] 1 point 5 hours ago (2 children)

    I just want to go full AMD, multiplication of drivers = multiplication of risk of issues.

    At least that's a good thing.

    I do, indeed.

    It's not just OBS, but it's because it's on OBS that I found out about the issue.

    At the moment it's not the type of music that people do like, I hope it'll change.

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  • [–] 2 points 5 hours ago* (1 child)

    Yeah, it is good to commit to a particular vendor to simplify your set-up so that you don't have...Driver conflicts which could be simple to difficult to solve. In my experience NVIDIA hasn't been the root of most of my difficult driver problems, it was always Windows (when I used it) providing me the wrong ones because a Microsoft chud believed they knew better than me. ROFL

    Yeah, it would be good if Corpo LLMs collapsed hard, fast, without mercy.

    Oofta, yeah, that is why I am keeping a strict schedule on my own education with Python so I don't get lost.

    Oofta, I didn't read too deep...But, I do hope that they fix that issue on Bazzite, as you might have to wait for a fix if you haven't already reported it to the Bazzite team.

    I think it is a mix of expectations and what people are conditioned to like, as rap started out with very different roots. It goes far back as the West African practice that combines: historian, storyteller, praise singer, poet, and/or musician into one person! Sad that current rappers are singing about the darkness, pain existing within communities instead of the hope, a desire for direct action and change.

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  • [–] 1 point 4 hours ago

    Yeah, Winslop is called Winslop for a reason...

    I should commit to the same thing

    No, I didn't report it 😅

    Oh yeah, I did find some rap that wasn't being negative, but they aren't popular artist, so people don't know about them

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