Like the cartel will allow the prices to fall even if there was more RAM available.

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[–] 9 points 3 days ago (7 children)

If the bubble pops, the US economy goes with it. It'll be 2008 all-over again.

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  • [–] 6 points 3 days ago

    Hopefully not like 2008 all over again because this time I'm hoping (maybe coping) that there'll actually be some consequences for those responsible. We can't just let our economy get held hostage every few years by a few greedy assholes. Hopefully with lessons learned, and a bluer government, we can break this cycle. The economy crashing in 2028 would be pretty good timing for that setup.

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  • [–] 0 points 3 days ago (3 children)

    If this is a bubble, it’s not a very impressive one. The dot-com bubble was built on companies with little or no revenue, and the Nasdaq eventually fell about 78%. Today the S&P 500 trades on a forward P/E of 18.7, below its 5 and 10 year averages, with Q3 earnings growth at 29.5%. Nvidia, for example, arguably the epicenter of the bubble, just made $63.7bn of operating income on $96.2bn of revenue at a 75% gross margin. So this bubble is built on organic growth and insane real demand. Google Cloud grew 103%. Azure 48%. AWS 39%.

    Also, neither OpenAI nor Anthropic are publicly traded. They can implode and it'll leave barely a ripple in the stock market.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 days ago (2 children)

    None of the AI companies are making money, Nvidia is making some, but large amounts of it's worth much like the other tech companies involved is fictional. All based on circular finance and buying through third parties to cover actual costs. It's as corrupt as you can get.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

    Nvidia, SK Hynix, Samsung and Micron are the only ones in this whole business that actually make large amounts of money, because they are the people selling the pickaxes and shovels for the gold rush. (Micron reported an absolutely insane 89% margin on the chips that go to vendors supplying the consumer market a few weeks ago - that number was around 30% before this madness started)

    I agree that NVidias money flows are circular, but all that investor money that flows into AI companies is moving to those 4 companies and to pay the power bills.

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  • [–] -1 points 3 days ago

    Nvidia booked $63.7bn operating income last quarter, and the equity gains you’re thinking of are a separate $7.8bn line underneath that. AWS made $17.8bn operating profit and Google Cloud $11.1bn in the same period, off customers who actually paid.

    There's nothing illegal or corrupt about Anthropic purchasing compute from SpaceX.

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