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Bazzite 45 is here! (universal-blue.discourse.group)
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[–] [S] 33 points 4 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (10 children)

I have been using Bazzite as my main os for nearly a year now. I tried to swap to linux a few times over the last ~15 years, and always had to go back to windows. I like the Immutable nature of it, while it does making installing some software a little harder the peace of mind I gain more than makes up for it for me. EDIT: I also like how it is Atomic and updates in one huge go, that can be rolled back if issues occur.

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  • [–] 4 points 4 days ago

    10 years ago, after another random Bluescreen i burned a debian install disk, deciding to install it the next time windows bluescreens on me. It took maybe a week. And then another week to start distro hopping, as debian and gaming isnt really a good combination. Hopped around spending most of my time on manjaro and arch, but the last year on bazzite was really chill. Most of the daily stuff mostly just runs. And the stuff das doesn't is mostly play around stuff where i dont mind playing around the atomic aspect

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  • [–] 2 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (8 children)

    I like the atomic nature of it

    Did you mean immutable? Never heard of an “atomic distro” before.

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  • [–] 13 points 4 days ago (1 child)

    It's what fedora calls their immutable spinoffs

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  • [–] 3 points 3 days ago

    No it's not. Fedora got pedantic about the term "immutable" but there are more than a few that use Atomic or Immutable and they are different things.

    Atomic is all-or-nothing upgrades, Immutable is a read-only OS structure (this is what Fedora got picky about as being ambiguous).

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  • [–] 8 points 3 days ago

    Atomic is all-or-nothing upgrades / block upgrades instead of individual packages

    Immutable is a read-only operating system root (yes, you have access to /etc, fedora got pedantic about this)

    You can have one, the other, or both, or none.

    See my reply to OP for sources but there are more than just the two I referenced.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 days ago (1 child)

    They refer to the same thing, but people have been preferring "atomic" over "immutable" recently.

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  • [–] 3 points 3 days ago

    Atomic is all-or-nothing upgrades / block upgrades instead of individual packages

    Immutable is a read-only operating system root (yes, you have access to /etc, fedora got pedantic about this)

    You can have one, the other, or both, or none.

    See my reply to OP for sources but there are more than just the two I referenced.

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  • [–] [S] 1 point 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

    Same thing, both words describe the same thing.

    EDIT: I have learned not only from the dude below me, but also more reading online that indeed atomic and immutable are not exactly the same thing. Related but different. Tho my comment stands I still like the atomic nature of Bazzite, but I also LOVE the immutable part of it.

    TLDR: Immutable means the core OS is read-only while it’s running, and atomic means updates swap in a whole new system all at once, so you can always roll back.

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  • [–] 5 points 3 days ago* (1 child)

    No, they aren't. I feel like I'm taking crazy pills reading these comments.

    Atomic is all-or-nothing upgrades / block upgrades instead of individual packages

    Immutable is a read-only operating system root (yes, you have access to /etc, fedora got pedantic about this)

    You can have one, the other, or both, or none.

    https://ubuntu.com/blog/ubuntu-core-an-immutable-linux-desktop

    https://fedoraproject.org/atomic-desktops/silverblue/

    What is an immutable operating system? Before we can discuss what differentiates Ubuntu Core from other immutable operating systems, we must first define the properties that make an OS immutable:

    Read-only: The primary characteristic of an immutable OS is that the running system cannot be directly modified by users or applications.

    Atomic updates: Updates are applied atomically; meaning they’re successfully applied all at once or not at all.

    [...]

    Edited for formatting.

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