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[–] 116 points 6 days ago (13 children)

What the fuck makes Apple think they have the right to not only spy on my private communications, but to also censor conversations between me and my wife?

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  • [–] 69 points 6 days ago (6 children)

    Apple says the detection is done on-device, but it's closed source and I can't think of a way to test it so I wouldn't trust it

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  • [–] 21 points 6 days ago (4 children)

    The calls are encrypted with AES-256 so you'd have to have the phone decrypting the stream and then connecting to an Apple server for nudity verification without on-device detection. It's entirely possible to verify/intercept what's being communicated from a device even if it is closed source.

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  • [–] 16 points 6 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

    Feature detection in images is extremely light weight so it seems that it would be fairly trivial to detect someones wang before the stream is encrypted in the first place. There is likely already a ton of processing done on raw camera data before it's encrypted and sent off-device anyway.

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  • [–] 7 points 6 days ago (2 children)

    Who is to say it isnt on device but sending all the data on again? It being closed source is the issue. It existing is the issue.

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  • [–] 4 points 6 days ago* (1 child)

    Yep. It could even be sending metadata back
    "Child Nudity detection at 2026-10-10T10:10:10" etc

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  • [–] 3 points 6 days ago

    I mean that is the perfect selling point for monitoring but there are pictures of me naked as a child on my mother's fridge, it shoupdn't auto flag as a criminal activity. Not arguing against you just adding a note.

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  • [–] 28 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (2 children)

    Looks like it’s an option you have to turn on or can turn off.

    https://support.apple.com/en-us/105071

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  • [–] 6 points 6 days ago (1 child)

    Because photos and videos are analyzed on your device, Apple doesn't receive an indication that sensitive content was detected and doesn't get access to the photos or videos.

    That doesn't mean that - It could be on device AND send an indication...

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  • [–] 14 points 6 days ago (2 children)

    I'm like 99% certain there's an option to turn it off.

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  • [–] 34 points 6 days ago (1 child)

    That shit should always be opt in, not opt out.

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  • [–] 24 points 6 days ago*

    This is actually do to government policies being put in place in the U.K., Australia and such. In those countries if a user has a child account (under 13 years old) certain safety features are turned on by default now in those countries, and the parent can choose to turn them off. If your account is over 18 years old, has a credit card attached to it, or I think there is a couple other ways it will automatically assume you are over 18 and you don't have to prove it (otherwise you would have to scan your ID to get your Apple account to have you listed as an adult). In the U.S. you don't have to prove it, and it is opt in by the users.

    So it's a catch 22, I think it should be opt in every where, but no one is winning a political campaign on saying 12 year olds should be able to send or receive nudes without their parents knowinh about it.

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