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[–] trxxruraxvr@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago (2 children) https://archive.is/Lwhb4 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] plantfanatic@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) Jesus Christ you’re ignoring the problem. A 2000sqft home would need about 25kw of electrical power to heat a home. Thats about 50 panels. And that’s JUST for the electric heat. Do you not understand just HOW much land that is….? It’s just not feasible lmfao. Where you’re connected to the grid, it’s a non-issue, but that’s not what was being discuss you bloody mook. In most places it’s “more efficient” and “cheaper” if you only account for the cost of the gas or electricity, but not if you include the land or any other factors. Also, try read your own sources, they don’t even agrees what with you’re trying to argue either. Put another way: Heat pumps may get less efficient as temperatures plummet, but they can still extract thermal energy from that cold air. If a trained technician has properly installed the heat pump, they’ll have sized it both for the volume of the home and in consideration of the lowest temperatures which that area will endure. “You have a maximum capacity that you require for that really cold day,” says Rosenow. “The temperature will drop and the heat pump will need more electricity, but it still provides exactly the right amount of heat to keep you comfortable.” To offset such costs for the consumer, governments might implement higher taxes on fossil fuels and use the revenue to lower utility bills. They can also roll out tax rebates or grants for installing heat pumps. The US Inflation Reduction Act, for instance, provides thousands of dollars for people to switch to a heat pump and do additional electric work that may be required to run them. The bill also covers weatherization—means of weatherproofing a building, like insulation and windows—that would help a home retain heat, thus increasing the efficiency of a heat pump: The less you have to run it, the less electricity you have to use and the lower your operating costs. You’re a fucking ignorant idiot dude. The link ALSO states it changes to resistive heating if it’s too cold…. So… yeah, it’s not even heat pumping if it gets too cold… permalink fedilink source parent [–] SchmidtGenetics@lemmy.world 1 point 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) Where I live, it’s a city of over a million, it can regularly get down to -40c, and we only get 7:30 hours of sunlight during the shortest days. The amount of panels and batteries you would need to survive the night is quite a bit more than you’re imagining I think. The system can't work for everyone, I don’t think the other user was saying everyone needs it, just there will always be a usecase. Colder remote places without lots of sun, that aren’t able to connect to the grid sounds like that usecase. Obviously if you’re grid connected, heat pumps are the way to go, but ignoring an entire portion of people who it isn’t feasible for is just wild. Your article also only talks about -10c…. That’s… not that cold dude. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] plantfanatic@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) Jesus Christ you’re ignoring the problem. A 2000sqft home would need about 25kw of electrical power to heat a home. Thats about 50 panels. And that’s JUST for the electric heat. Do you not understand just HOW much land that is….? It’s just not feasible lmfao. Where you’re connected to the grid, it’s a non-issue, but that’s not what was being discuss you bloody mook. In most places it’s “more efficient” and “cheaper” if you only account for the cost of the gas or electricity, but not if you include the land or any other factors. Also, try read your own sources, they don’t even agrees what with you’re trying to argue either. Put another way: Heat pumps may get less efficient as temperatures plummet, but they can still extract thermal energy from that cold air. If a trained technician has properly installed the heat pump, they’ll have sized it both for the volume of the home and in consideration of the lowest temperatures which that area will endure. “You have a maximum capacity that you require for that really cold day,” says Rosenow. “The temperature will drop and the heat pump will need more electricity, but it still provides exactly the right amount of heat to keep you comfortable.” To offset such costs for the consumer, governments might implement higher taxes on fossil fuels and use the revenue to lower utility bills. They can also roll out tax rebates or grants for installing heat pumps. The US Inflation Reduction Act, for instance, provides thousands of dollars for people to switch to a heat pump and do additional electric work that may be required to run them. The bill also covers weatherization—means of weatherproofing a building, like insulation and windows—that would help a home retain heat, thus increasing the efficiency of a heat pump: The less you have to run it, the less electricity you have to use and the lower your operating costs. You’re a fucking ignorant idiot dude. The link ALSO states it changes to resistive heating if it’s too cold…. So… yeah, it’s not even heat pumping if it gets too cold… permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SchmidtGenetics@lemmy.world 1 point 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) Where I live, it’s a city of over a million, it can regularly get down to -40c, and we only get 7:30 hours of sunlight during the shortest days. The amount of panels and batteries you would need to survive the night is quite a bit more than you’re imagining I think. The system can't work for everyone, I don’t think the other user was saying everyone needs it, just there will always be a usecase. Colder remote places without lots of sun, that aren’t able to connect to the grid sounds like that usecase. Obviously if you’re grid connected, heat pumps are the way to go, but ignoring an entire portion of people who it isn’t feasible for is just wild. Your article also only talks about -10c…. That’s… not that cold dude. permalink fedilink source parent