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San Francisco turned a beach road into a park. Drivers are not happy. On November 3rd, voters will decide whether or not the road should be reopened to cars (cdn.imgchest.com)

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[+] deegeese@sopuli.xyz -37 points 1 week ago (16 children)

That beach is completely inaccessible by public transit from the East Bay.

Closing it to cars is a NIMBY move by neighbors who don’t want to share the beach with out of towners.

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[–] fipto@lemmy.world 51 points 1 week ago (11 children)

they should add public transit then

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[–] DonJefe@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago

100% agree. The solution is to add public transportation. Public transportation makes it more accessible than opening it for car access

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[–] ArbitraryValue@sh.itjust.works -5 points 1 week ago* (4 children)

Add public transit? BART is going broke because no one wants to ride the public transit they already have. They'll be shutting down stations unless their new sales tax passes.

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[–] Peasley@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago*

Public transit shouldn't be expected to turn a profit or even break even. We don't expect public schools, highways, or fire departments to break even. Why should BART? It's a public service.

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[–] NaibofTabr@infosec.pub 8 points 1 week ago (2 children)

BART is going broke because no one wants to ride the public transit they already have.

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The cars in my area are constantly full during the day, it's hard to even board after 0730.

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[–] ArbitraryValue@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 child)

https://www.bart.gov/about/financials/crisis

There are fewer than half as many total riders as there were before the pandemic.

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[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

that has less to do with the number of riders and more to do with fluctuations in federal funding

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[+] deegeese@sopuli.xyz -9 points 1 week ago (4 children)

It exists, but takes 3 hours each way, so is unusable by families.

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[–] fipto@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago (3 children)

they should add public transit then

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[+] deegeese@sopuli.xyz -12 points 1 week ago (2 children)

They should not take away public access until there’s public transit.

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[–] harmbugler@piefed.social 10 points 1 week ago

How do the locals get there then? Can't out-of-towners do the same thing?

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[–] Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 4 days ago

you know perfectly well that it being accessible by car will be used to justify not improving public transit

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