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Manifestos, Fear, and ‘Loser Thinking’: Inside Proton’s AI Reckoning (www.404media.co)

submitted 1 week ago by excursion22@piefed.ca to c/privacy@lemmy.world

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Andy Yen, the CEO of Proton, had a message for an employee in the company’s security Slack channel who urged the company to at least take a few days to pentest newly written code before pushing it live. “That’s bullshit and loser thinking. Of course it’s possible to be fast and secure,” Yen wrote in the channel at the end of August. “Stop thinking always of how to be slower, and focus more on how to be faster.”

In a follow-up message, Yen reiterated his point: “only losers think like that.” His ultimate message for the team was to “stop lovingly handcrafting all our code and use AI more.”

[–] CorvusCornix@piefed.social 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

And I had just gotten over my ick from his earlier comments enough to start using Proton Pass (albeit, only in the absence of really any good alternatives). Glad I only signed up for a month so I can cancel it, and glad I resisted the urge to move to their email when Tuta was giving me trouble.

If anyone knows any trustworthy password managers, ideally hosted in Europe with a privacy policy that boils down to "we won't share your data, advertise, etc." (this requirement tends to disqualify most of the usual suspects) please let me know! Password managers are the one thing I'm unwilling to self-host; I just don't trust myself that much.

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[–] excursion22@piefed.ca [S] 4 points 1 week ago*

I'm being (perhaps overly) optimistic that this might be the last straw for Andy, but we'll see.

The official proton account had this to say over on that other site:

It hasn't been the best couple of days.

We’ve read the various threads and we have heard your feedback. However, right now we need to focus on listening to our employees. They're the ones who've gotten us to where we are today, and they're the ones who are impacted the most.

We love this community, and we will come back to you. But in the days ahead, we need to get our house in order first

I'm hoping getting their house in order means kicking Andy Yen and Bart Butler out of it...