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[–] 2 points 1 week ago* (9 children)

Ah well I agree I would Linux love maintainers to take a more principled stance against LLM contributions given all the negative externalities of the technology as it exists today.

there's a strong case to be made that there is no way to use the current "frontier" models ethically because of how they were trained and who their patrons are. I would love to see that acknowledged.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 week ago (2 children)

    By that logic most media consumption is unethical. Almost anything out of a major studio is made with the abuse of, underpayment of, and often even outright theft from small artists. I think a much better solution than not using them is to take all the money they made from it and redistribute it as universal basic income, then make the models 100% free to use. Cat's outta the bag, at this point I just wanna see the little guy get paid.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 week ago

    By that logic most media consumption is unethical. Almost anything out of a major studio is made with the abuse of, underpayment of, and often even outright theft from small artists.

    Now we're on the same track. My goal is if we can't solve these problems entirely, at the least not contribute to the further exploitation and enclosure of our commons.

    This is one of the reasons I think copyright is a dead end — it's a tool of the enemy.

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  • [–] -1 points 1 week ago (5 children)

    So you are on the side of binary thinking, in the end. Cool.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 week ago* (4 children)

    What makes you think that? I am on no side. I'm just trying to be objective. Everything I said is factually borne out afaik.

    Also

    you are on the side of

    binary thinking

    Lol now you're just playing with me, very funny ;p

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  • [–] -1 points 1 week ago* (3 children)

    You thought you were being subtle but if your response to an extremist viewpoint is "yes they make a good point" you're not getting it but you do seem to want to definitely take a side.

    "I'm just being objective but your point isn't worth addressing while the thought process you take issue with is totally valid"

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  • [–] 2 points 1 week ago (2 children)

    I'm not trying to be subtle, I'm trying to be open. Clearly we've each got our opinions and I think I've been very upfront with mine. You're right I don't think being against this technology qualifies as an "extremist" position anymore then being against cloud computing or Nvidia are extreme takes.

    Anyway you didn't even try me. I'm elsewhere in this thread talking about the legitimate uses for LLMs. Not everything is as black vs white, clanker vs luddite, as you're making it.

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