▲ 183 ▼ More Than 3% of Russian Men Aged 40–50 Have HIV as Epidemic Spreads in 27 Regions (united24media.com) submitted 2 weeks ago by CityPop@lemmy.today to c/world 18 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[+] Blibittyblah@futurology.today 7 points 2 weeks ago (9 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source hideshow 9 child comments replies: [–] DahGangalang@infosec.pub 15 points 2 weeks ago (8 children) Why do you say that? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] expatriado@lemmy.world 29 points 2 weeks ago (3 children) u/Blibittyblah is moving to the USA permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [+] Blibittyblah@futurology.today 2 points 2 weeks ago (3 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] expatriado@lemmy.world 11 points 2 weeks ago (2 children) are you sure? i am man in the 40-50 age group, basically your target permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Blibittyblah@futurology.today 1 point 2 weeks ago (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] StankStain@lemmy.today 3 points 1 week ago (1 child) What about in America, with me? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] Blibittyblah@futurology.today 1 point 1 week ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] StankStain@lemmy.today 3 points 1 week ago what about for love? permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies) [–] zikzak025@lemmy.world 22 points 2 weeks ago (1 child) They say it because there always has to be an obligatory "Whatabout USA" in any thread about problems in other countries. Not to say that there aren't still concerns in the US, though, with the politicization of disease and healthcare in a state of near collapse. It just has little to do with the article above. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] DahGangalang@infosec.pub 1 point 1 week ago Ah, guess I just don't get out in the !world@quokk.au enough. permalink fedilink source parent [–] belated_frog_pants@beehaw.org 1 point 1 week ago (1 child) It's spreading like wild fire among heterosexual young folks in the US. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] DahGangalang@infosec.pub 1 point 1 week ago So I want to push back on that. In the CDC's 2026 report (leaning on 2024 data) there looks be to be a definite upswing of cases in the US, but there was ~38.8k new cases reported with 65% linked to "persons with HIV attributed to male-to-male sexual contact". That leaves ~13.5k cases that'd be attributed to all other spread vectors, or an overall spread of 0.0397 per 100,000 (assuming a US population of 342 million) amongst non-MMSC infected. For Russia, I can't find the data broken out (at least not in an English language article), but to make sure I'm doing an apples to apples comparison in next block, that's an overall spread of 0.113 per 100k for US. According to Wikipedia, "by the beginning of the 21st century" Russia's spread of HIV hit 157 cases per 100k people. Article also says "The HIV incidence rate increased from 187.3 to 472 cases per 100,000 people between 2007 and 2017", but that feels....absurdly high. I want to say that's for a specific region, but it is, its not clear which region it involves. Point is, we appear to be looking at a 3+ order of magnitude difference between the spread in U.S. vs Russia. Additionally, it looks like Russia's spread is primarily due to contaminated needles when doing drugs - don't want to speculate too hard when I'm not an expert on the matter, but that speaks to a national "moral" problem to me (at least that is orders of magnitude worse than in U.S.). I'm def bothered by the best sources I can dredge up coming from Wikipedia (I've always found it to be directionally correct, though often glossing over finer points which then leads me to wrong conclusions); which is to say, if you can point me to some better / more directly sourced (preferably English language) data on the matter, I'd be very interested to look it over. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] DahGangalang@infosec.pub 15 points 2 weeks ago (8 children) Why do you say that? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] expatriado@lemmy.world 29 points 2 weeks ago (3 children) u/Blibittyblah is moving to the USA permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [+] Blibittyblah@futurology.today 2 points 2 weeks ago (3 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] expatriado@lemmy.world 11 points 2 weeks ago (2 children) are you sure? i am man in the 40-50 age group, basically your target permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Blibittyblah@futurology.today 1 point 2 weeks ago (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] StankStain@lemmy.today 3 points 1 week ago (1 child) What about in America, with me? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] Blibittyblah@futurology.today 1 point 1 week ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] StankStain@lemmy.today 3 points 1 week ago what about for love? permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies) [–] zikzak025@lemmy.world 22 points 2 weeks ago (1 child) They say it because there always has to be an obligatory "Whatabout USA" in any thread about problems in other countries. Not to say that there aren't still concerns in the US, though, with the politicization of disease and healthcare in a state of near collapse. It just has little to do with the article above. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] DahGangalang@infosec.pub 1 point 1 week ago Ah, guess I just don't get out in the !world@quokk.au enough. permalink fedilink source parent [–] belated_frog_pants@beehaw.org 1 point 1 week ago (1 child) It's spreading like wild fire among heterosexual young folks in the US. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] DahGangalang@infosec.pub 1 point 1 week ago So I want to push back on that. In the CDC's 2026 report (leaning on 2024 data) there looks be to be a definite upswing of cases in the US, but there was ~38.8k new cases reported with 65% linked to "persons with HIV attributed to male-to-male sexual contact". That leaves ~13.5k cases that'd be attributed to all other spread vectors, or an overall spread of 0.0397 per 100,000 (assuming a US population of 342 million) amongst non-MMSC infected. For Russia, I can't find the data broken out (at least not in an English language article), but to make sure I'm doing an apples to apples comparison in next block, that's an overall spread of 0.113 per 100k for US. According to Wikipedia, "by the beginning of the 21st century" Russia's spread of HIV hit 157 cases per 100k people. Article also says "The HIV incidence rate increased from 187.3 to 472 cases per 100,000 people between 2007 and 2017", but that feels....absurdly high. I want to say that's for a specific region, but it is, its not clear which region it involves. Point is, we appear to be looking at a 3+ order of magnitude difference between the spread in U.S. vs Russia. Additionally, it looks like Russia's spread is primarily due to contaminated needles when doing drugs - don't want to speculate too hard when I'm not an expert on the matter, but that speaks to a national "moral" problem to me (at least that is orders of magnitude worse than in U.S.). I'm def bothered by the best sources I can dredge up coming from Wikipedia (I've always found it to be directionally correct, though often glossing over finer points which then leads me to wrong conclusions); which is to say, if you can point me to some better / more directly sourced (preferably English language) data on the matter, I'd be very interested to look it over. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] expatriado@lemmy.world 29 points 2 weeks ago (3 children) u/Blibittyblah is moving to the USA permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [+] Blibittyblah@futurology.today 2 points 2 weeks ago (3 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] expatriado@lemmy.world 11 points 2 weeks ago (2 children) are you sure? i am man in the 40-50 age group, basically your target permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Blibittyblah@futurology.today 1 point 2 weeks ago (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] StankStain@lemmy.today 3 points 1 week ago (1 child) What about in America, with me? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] Blibittyblah@futurology.today 1 point 1 week ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] StankStain@lemmy.today 3 points 1 week ago what about for love? permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies)
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[–] zikzak025@lemmy.world 22 points 2 weeks ago (1 child) They say it because there always has to be an obligatory "Whatabout USA" in any thread about problems in other countries. Not to say that there aren't still concerns in the US, though, with the politicization of disease and healthcare in a state of near collapse. It just has little to do with the article above. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] DahGangalang@infosec.pub 1 point 1 week ago Ah, guess I just don't get out in the !world@quokk.au enough. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] DahGangalang@infosec.pub 1 point 1 week ago Ah, guess I just don't get out in the !world@quokk.au enough. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] belated_frog_pants@beehaw.org 1 point 1 week ago (1 child) It's spreading like wild fire among heterosexual young folks in the US. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] DahGangalang@infosec.pub 1 point 1 week ago So I want to push back on that. In the CDC's 2026 report (leaning on 2024 data) there looks be to be a definite upswing of cases in the US, but there was ~38.8k new cases reported with 65% linked to "persons with HIV attributed to male-to-male sexual contact". That leaves ~13.5k cases that'd be attributed to all other spread vectors, or an overall spread of 0.0397 per 100,000 (assuming a US population of 342 million) amongst non-MMSC infected. For Russia, I can't find the data broken out (at least not in an English language article), but to make sure I'm doing an apples to apples comparison in next block, that's an overall spread of 0.113 per 100k for US. According to Wikipedia, "by the beginning of the 21st century" Russia's spread of HIV hit 157 cases per 100k people. Article also says "The HIV incidence rate increased from 187.3 to 472 cases per 100,000 people between 2007 and 2017", but that feels....absurdly high. I want to say that's for a specific region, but it is, its not clear which region it involves. Point is, we appear to be looking at a 3+ order of magnitude difference between the spread in U.S. vs Russia. Additionally, it looks like Russia's spread is primarily due to contaminated needles when doing drugs - don't want to speculate too hard when I'm not an expert on the matter, but that speaks to a national "moral" problem to me (at least that is orders of magnitude worse than in U.S.). I'm def bothered by the best sources I can dredge up coming from Wikipedia (I've always found it to be directionally correct, though often glossing over finer points which then leads me to wrong conclusions); which is to say, if you can point me to some better / more directly sourced (preferably English language) data on the matter, I'd be very interested to look it over. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] DahGangalang@infosec.pub 1 point 1 week ago So I want to push back on that. In the CDC's 2026 report (leaning on 2024 data) there looks be to be a definite upswing of cases in the US, but there was ~38.8k new cases reported with 65% linked to "persons with HIV attributed to male-to-male sexual contact". That leaves ~13.5k cases that'd be attributed to all other spread vectors, or an overall spread of 0.0397 per 100,000 (assuming a US population of 342 million) amongst non-MMSC infected. For Russia, I can't find the data broken out (at least not in an English language article), but to make sure I'm doing an apples to apples comparison in next block, that's an overall spread of 0.113 per 100k for US. According to Wikipedia, "by the beginning of the 21st century" Russia's spread of HIV hit 157 cases per 100k people. Article also says "The HIV incidence rate increased from 187.3 to 472 cases per 100,000 people between 2007 and 2017", but that feels....absurdly high. I want to say that's for a specific region, but it is, its not clear which region it involves. Point is, we appear to be looking at a 3+ order of magnitude difference between the spread in U.S. vs Russia. Additionally, it looks like Russia's spread is primarily due to contaminated needles when doing drugs - don't want to speculate too hard when I'm not an expert on the matter, but that speaks to a national "moral" problem to me (at least that is orders of magnitude worse than in U.S.). I'm def bothered by the best sources I can dredge up coming from Wikipedia (I've always found it to be directionally correct, though often glossing over finer points which then leads me to wrong conclusions); which is to say, if you can point me to some better / more directly sourced (preferably English language) data on the matter, I'd be very interested to look it over. permalink fedilink source parent