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[–] 26 points 1 week ago (11 children)

The bourgeoisie were only a middle class in relation to the aristocracy above them. While there's still some aristocrats around, they're not relevant as a societal class. The modern middle class is a subset of the proletariat afforded enough wealth to be good little consumers fuelling the growth of the economy.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 week ago

    this still all remains true. the bourgeoisie of france and described in classical 1800s socialist theory are administrators of an aristocratic oligarchy. today, this still remains true. they are provided the petty comforts of the plantation overseer in return for carrying out the boring administration work the oligarchs won't, or can't, perform. in return, they are given minor aesthetic access to aspect of the oligarchy, like lawns, picket fences, and prepared meals. the bourgeousie of france and classical socialist theory are doctors, lawyers, accountants, and artisans. today they are doctors, lawyers, accountants, and artisans

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  • [–] 4 points 1 week ago (5 children)

    The modern middle class is a subset of the proletariat afforded enough wealth to be good little consumers fuelling the growth of the economy.

    Sure. But they're they consequences of industrialized, Fordism, and the population explosion. They aren't an engineered response to the 1917 Russian Revolution.

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  • [–] 11 points 1 week ago* (3 children)

    That's the neat part, its selective pressure. Capitalists don't need to engineer an outcome (though they still can and do, occasionally). Each one merely acts on their own immediate self interest and collectively this has a tendency to move and shape society towards outcomes that further benefit them as a class.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 week ago* (2 children)

    Each one merely acts on their own immediate self interest and collectively this has a tendency to move and shape society towards outcomes that further benefit them as a class.

    Sure. But then, also, you've got explicit organizations and agencies that do actively manage the economy.

    Ford buying up and tearing out all the municipal street car systems, for instance, was engaged in a national urban redevelopment plan with the backing of a multitude of investors and city planners.

    Robert Moses carving Central Park out of the heart of the city's black quarter. Levittowns springing up all over Queens. Columbia University bit off big chucks of Harlem for campus expansion. These didn't happen by accident or without discussion.

    The Federal Reserve with it's Dual Mandate, to balance inflation against unemployment.

    But there was no Central Committee to Create The Middle Income American. At least, not one that sprang up explicitly in response to the Soviet Union.

    And there's no reason to believe this middle class benefits the bourgeois. Highly educated, well-socialized, underemployed young people are a breeding ground for organized opposition. If the seeds for the next iteration of social change exist, they'll be found in that economic space between social ignorance and social comfort.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 week ago* (1 child)

    The economy couldn't have grown like it used to in the last century without the middle class fuelling that growth with consumerism. Guess who owns that economy? The middle class has definitely benefited the bourgeoisie in this regard a great deal. And while it's a breeding ground for organized opposition as you say, the majority of them are still quite comfortably sedated with bread and circuses. The material comforts are also used as justification for the righteousness of the system. It remains to be seen how long that lasts for, however.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 week ago

    The economy couldn’t have grown like it used to in the last century without the middle class fuelling that growth with consumerism.

    Consumerism engages participation in the economy, as demand for consumables creates a demand for currency and thus a supply of labor.

    But you still need raw materials, energy, empty real estate, and an employable set of people.

    The industrial revolution glutted the economy with cheap resources.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 week ago (3 children)

    That would make them "petit bourgeoisie".

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  • [–] 10 points 1 week ago (2 children)

    If you sell your labor to make a living, you're not bourgeoisie. Big or little.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 week ago (1 child)

    That's very true, and I think I may have originally misunderstood your comment.

    Workers in general, don't really count as "the middle class". White collar or blue collar...they're all still "working class", no matter how much they earn.

    Petit bourgeoisie applies to any entrepreneurs or small business owners. They aren't "wealthy", and they are still technically "working for a living". But, they also aren't "selling their labor"...they're buying someone else's.

    They're the transitional class that sits between the working class and the bourgeoisie. That's always what I've understood the "middle class" to be.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 week ago*

    Interestingly someone employed in a highly-sought-after profession may be more financially stable and well-off than a struggling small company owner, even if the latter employs others.

    Or to take an example from my wider family: A lady in her 70s (with a more well-off relative securing the loan) managed to buy a small flat to rent out on AirBnB. If not for this, her state pension would not be enough to cover her food and bills, and no one hires older women where she lives. (And she has no savings to speak of.) Like, she's technically a landlord now, but even with the AirBnB income she's barely scraping by, so I can't really see her as bourgeois.

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