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Reddit's r/opensource bans AI slop, and quite a few humans for good measure Discussion & Question Moderation Big tech (www.theregister.com)
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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ca/post/72942555

Meanwhile on reddit.

Honestly kind of sounds like lemmy.world mods tho...

edit ahaha lemmy.world's fediverse community locked discussion about this, of course they did..

To get a project featured on the subreddit, developers now need to show it has been actively maintained for at least a year, has an established community, and has at least three contributors, give or take. Student projects such as note-taking apps and PDF viewers aren't welcome either, and developers can no longer use the subreddit to find people willing to help maintain their software.

That creates a chicken-and-egg problem for independent developers, who apparently need an established community before they can use an open source forum to find one. Even projects with no AI involvement could fall foul of the rules. One Reddit user pointed out that their nine-year-old project, which has more than 300 GitHub stars and dozens of resolved issues, would no longer qualify because they're its sole contributor.

The moderator also imposed a minimum Reddit account age of one year and requires significant prior contributions. Anyone who attempts to post and then contacts the moderators seeking an exception risks being permanently banned and muted.

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[–] 4 points 1 week ago (8 children)

Being a reactionary is never a good thing. Though unfortunately by and large in a lot of places it is the norm.

Whatever we think of ai. It doesn't matter. It's here. It's not going away. And trying to reactionarily be pure and untainted is only going to cause problems for ourselves and everyone else.

I think the one thing that could be universally agreed upon at least in the fediverse. Is that people shouldn't be using proprietary models run in remote data centers by fascist oligarchs.

Sadly in those places we cannot have a nuance debate about what we should do in response. My issue with Torvalds and others isn't specifically that they are using ai. I think someone with his background and experience, can turn out good code faster using AI. My problem is that he's likely currently using a big proprietary model to do that.

We should all be using local models if any. Which is something that is starting to happen. Even today IBM was talking about it. Sure they were talking about it in reference to them selling the hardware for it to their customers. But still self-hosted nonetheless. And on top of that ethically trained models. I think all of this will come in time. Even with all the toxic reactionary virtue signaling.

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  • [–] [S] 11 points 1 week ago* (5 children)

    Whatever we think of ai. It doesn’t matter. It’s here. It’s not going away.

    Your entire argument hinges on a delusional, near religious belief in the inevitability of AI.

    It is a broken technology that uses a massive amount of energy to serve up results that are often catastrophically wrong. There is NOTHING inevitable about AI, and there are no indications it is profitable or can be trusted to make actually important decisions alone.

    You cannot paint the future with such decisiveness without evidence, and this is precisely what is leading to a collapse of AI valuations. It is all just vibes and no substance.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 week ago

    the assumption is this is expensive or locked behind some corporate wall, models like deepseek v4 flash that are now out are useful af, pretty damn capable and will be around forever now that they exist, because they are already running on random ppls hardware

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  • [–] 2 points 1 week ago (2 children)

    You're ultimately not disagreeing with me. But you are behaving very reactionarily/irrationally. Literally I was talking about the commercial AI data centers their unethical oligarchs. And the necessity of getting rid of them.

    Specifically I was taking with regard to self hosting. I have self hosted before. Have you? Since you're acting like a subject matter expert who's sure of themselves. Can you explain why that even with having no hoses or anything run to my desktop, that it worked just fine? Yes it's inefficient. So were computers at one point. Filling buildings and consuming kilowatts of power. They got better.

    Frankly I really don't like it being called ai colloquially either. I don't think what is being paraded around us truly conscious etc. But the reactionary behavior is what leads to a lot of shit shows. Purposeful misunderstandings etc. Like I said, you probably mostly agree with me. Whether or not you understand that.

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  • [–] [S] 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 child)

    The idea that because you have self-hosted before it makes you somehow qualified to speak about this is just you sitting on a high horse and throwing anecdotes at me condescendingly, it means nothing.

    There is no credible evidence self-hosted or corporate AI delivers on any of its promises, it is just a woodchipper to obliterate our humanity in so we can spit out bloody chunks and point at them and say "wow, almost like the real thing!".

    AI is a snake eating itself/a massive theft of the commons in an attempt to privatize it, and once the public's shared wealth of open information has been strip mined and then drowned in AI submitted crap to push things that direction, all of this collapses into complete and utter junk.

    If we decide to actually go through with this dumb shit and get to that point I will never stop raising the point that this was all a self-defeating choice we made not any sort of "inevitable" new powerful technology we all had to bow down to and become dependent on.

    If we choose AI as the "inevitable" future we have only become religious in a new way that limits our ability to innovate and create new technologies that actually work.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 week ago

    The idea that because you have self-hosted before it makes you somehow qualified to speak about this is just you sitting on a high horse and throwing anecdotes at me condescendingly, it means nothing.

    We can debate about the level of qualification all day long. But I'll tell you one thing, it makes me more qualified than someone who hasn't. Which was the point you're trying to deflect from. And talk about condescending. Either way I'm not here to troll or caused drama. I gave my two cents and you can get back to your Purity or whatever I'm out. Can't have a reasonable discussion with someone who behaves like this.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 week ago

    Deepseekv4 flash can handle most projects ppl post on opensource related subreddits, its not going anywhere, its cheap af, it might get more expensive but if I have to spend 50$ instead of 20$ a month I wont cry about it.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 week ago (1 child)

    I am not sure that coming off as pretentious by presenting your ideas as "nuance" and deriding everyone else's views as "reactionary" and saying it "doesn't matter what they think" is the avenue for civilized discussion that you might have assumed it was.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 week ago

    Pretentiousness wasn't the intent. I chose reactionary because it was the most neutral way to describe the phenomenon. If you have problems with the word choice. What word would you use to describe it?

    Keep in mind. I'm as about as skeptical of this so-called AI as anyone else. Even though I have self-hosted them at home. I don't generally run them. Because they are largely useless to me.

    Still though, we see people having for lack of better words. Very strong, lower knowledge reactions to the discussion. If you feel that's pretentious, then honestly what terms would you suggest for those well beyond healthy skepticism?

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