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[ER] Not sure what to think of this (lemmy.zip)
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The Chalice Dungeons certainly aren't a home run for the average player, but overall, I did enjoy them a lot more than I enjoyed ER dungeons.

The layout was oftentimes repetitive, true, but so was Elden Ring in that regard. They could have seen the reception of BB's Chalice Dungeons and do something about it.

The bosses were, overall, a lot better than in ER. Amygdala can go choke on a brick, but the Pthumerians were cool, Abhorrent Beast and Fire Dawg are cool, the latter being a pain on your way to Yharnam, Queen fucking Yharnan who might be one of the coolest bosses in the entire game?! Compared to Watchdog 1, Watchdog 2, 2 Watchdogs, Yucky Tree Serpent in 10 of them. Like, what?

The worst thing is the rewards in ER's dungeons. I know some people here in our community that know what to do with these, for example the crafting materials you get, but to the average player, the rewards are bull. In BB, you get special variant weapons and materials to access deeper levels of the Chalices - not useful in the regular sense but useful to progress further, gaining meaning in that way at least.

I just woke up from a nap and maybe I'm being too combative right now but come on :D

Thoughts?

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[–] 5 points 3 weeks ago*

I like the Dungeons in ER way more than Chalice Dungeons. In BB the Chalice Dungeons are a huge step down in terms of level design from the main game (which has some of the very best levels; Central Yharnam is still the best tutorial in all of gaming.)

The Dungeons in ER are way more deliberately designed. The first couple are tutorial and then you need to build upon what you learned; find the lever use spacial reasoning etc.

Also the loot is just way better in ER at least in my opinion. But that is also from someone who as Druid put it "knows what to do with". And in I will admit during a first playthrough only like 10% of loot is interesting. But I can think of a reason to go to almost all of the catacombs and other mini dungeons in Elden Ring for some reason or another (okay maybe not the first two mini catacombs in Limgrave).

The loot in BB only gets useful at the very end with the best Runes and the best Blood Gems. And I hate Blood Gems (that is a rant for another day). Until almost the very last dungeons the gems are better in the main game and the depths were you get the good ones is at a difficulty of about NG+6. (and the Runes also only appear at the very end.). To get there you need it either grid about 2 playthrough worth of dungeon's or cheat with online glyphs.

Bosses… Okay Bosses maybe BB is slightly ahead especially when we are comparing only catacombs. Still there not really any Bosses to make me go to Chalice dugeons just for them. The humanoids like the Watchers or Pthumerian are boring and I dislike Yharnam (the fight not the character; the character is awesome.). The headless Bloodletting Beast with the centipede does look cool though, even though it is a bit jank to fight.

Edit: Also Mini-Dungeons are pretty fun in ER Randomizers. Until now I have not given into the temptation of clicking "All Bosses" in the important item section. But one day I will do an all Bosses Randomizer run.

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