▲ 271 ▼ Silicon Valley AI Startups Are Embracing China’s Controversial ‘996’ Work Schedule (www.wired.com) submitted 1 year ago by Davriellelouna@lemmy.world to c/technology@lemmy.world 82 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] socialsecurity@piefed.social 5 points 1 year ago (11 children) Entry level makes 400k? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 11 child comments replies: [–] paequ2@lemmy.today 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) For the absolute bottom rung, not exactly 400k, but around there. Also depends on the city and team. The main point is that if you're gonna work a 996, you better be making at least $1M/year or more (honestly probably more, I tend to undershoot salaries) for it to be worth it. Otherwise, just get a normal FANG job if you only want to make $400k (lower end for FANG). permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] socialsecurity@piefed.social 2 points 1 year ago Can you post a link this 400k entry level job? permalink fedilink source parent [–] Zannsolo@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (8 children) Total package including signing bonus stock permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] sobchak@programming.dev 4 points 1 year ago More like $200k in total comp (but I suppose if the stock rockets like 5x after you're hired, it can end up being $400k). Senior positions can make > $400k/yr in total comp. Some companies have back-loaded vesting schedules so they can get rid of you before the majority of your options vest though. permalink fedilink source parent [–] socialsecurity@piefed.social 1 point 1 year ago* (6 children) I would like to see the data set where you pulled this anecdote from. This starting number for annual comp is not supported by any publicly available data for entry level in any meaningful quantity. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago (5 children) Levels.fyi permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] socialsecurity@piefed.social 1 point 1 year ago (4 children) Well link what you are talking about then, I don't see 400k entry level jobs permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] paequ2@lemmy.today 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) I didn't say exactly 400k. I said "make around that amount of money" My main point is that you shouldn't kill yourself for only 400k per year. Ask for much, much more. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] socialsecurity@piefed.social 1 point 1 year ago So looks like one guy with ML has a job like that rest of them are well into mid level, which does track. You are cherry picking data permalink fedilink source parent [–] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) I didn’t make that claim, Im just sharing a helpful resource. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] socialsecurity@piefed.social 1 point 1 year ago Right I am aware of the dataset there and it doesn't support entry level 400k jobs though permalink fedilink source parent
[–] paequ2@lemmy.today 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) For the absolute bottom rung, not exactly 400k, but around there. Also depends on the city and team. The main point is that if you're gonna work a 996, you better be making at least $1M/year or more (honestly probably more, I tend to undershoot salaries) for it to be worth it. Otherwise, just get a normal FANG job if you only want to make $400k (lower end for FANG). permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] socialsecurity@piefed.social 2 points 1 year ago Can you post a link this 400k entry level job? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] socialsecurity@piefed.social 2 points 1 year ago Can you post a link this 400k entry level job? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Zannsolo@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (8 children) Total package including signing bonus stock permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] sobchak@programming.dev 4 points 1 year ago More like $200k in total comp (but I suppose if the stock rockets like 5x after you're hired, it can end up being $400k). Senior positions can make > $400k/yr in total comp. Some companies have back-loaded vesting schedules so they can get rid of you before the majority of your options vest though. permalink fedilink source parent [–] socialsecurity@piefed.social 1 point 1 year ago* (6 children) I would like to see the data set where you pulled this anecdote from. This starting number for annual comp is not supported by any publicly available data for entry level in any meaningful quantity. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago (5 children) Levels.fyi permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] socialsecurity@piefed.social 1 point 1 year ago (4 children) Well link what you are talking about then, I don't see 400k entry level jobs permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] paequ2@lemmy.today 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) I didn't say exactly 400k. I said "make around that amount of money" My main point is that you shouldn't kill yourself for only 400k per year. Ask for much, much more. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] socialsecurity@piefed.social 1 point 1 year ago So looks like one guy with ML has a job like that rest of them are well into mid level, which does track. You are cherry picking data permalink fedilink source parent [–] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) I didn’t make that claim, Im just sharing a helpful resource. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] socialsecurity@piefed.social 1 point 1 year ago Right I am aware of the dataset there and it doesn't support entry level 400k jobs though permalink fedilink source parent
[–] sobchak@programming.dev 4 points 1 year ago More like $200k in total comp (but I suppose if the stock rockets like 5x after you're hired, it can end up being $400k). Senior positions can make > $400k/yr in total comp. Some companies have back-loaded vesting schedules so they can get rid of you before the majority of your options vest though. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] socialsecurity@piefed.social 1 point 1 year ago* (6 children) I would like to see the data set where you pulled this anecdote from. This starting number for annual comp is not supported by any publicly available data for entry level in any meaningful quantity. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago (5 children) Levels.fyi permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] socialsecurity@piefed.social 1 point 1 year ago (4 children) Well link what you are talking about then, I don't see 400k entry level jobs permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] paequ2@lemmy.today 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) I didn't say exactly 400k. I said "make around that amount of money" My main point is that you shouldn't kill yourself for only 400k per year. Ask for much, much more. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] socialsecurity@piefed.social 1 point 1 year ago So looks like one guy with ML has a job like that rest of them are well into mid level, which does track. You are cherry picking data permalink fedilink source parent [–] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) I didn’t make that claim, Im just sharing a helpful resource. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] socialsecurity@piefed.social 1 point 1 year ago Right I am aware of the dataset there and it doesn't support entry level 400k jobs though permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago (5 children) Levels.fyi permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] socialsecurity@piefed.social 1 point 1 year ago (4 children) Well link what you are talking about then, I don't see 400k entry level jobs permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] paequ2@lemmy.today 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) I didn't say exactly 400k. I said "make around that amount of money" My main point is that you shouldn't kill yourself for only 400k per year. Ask for much, much more. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] socialsecurity@piefed.social 1 point 1 year ago So looks like one guy with ML has a job like that rest of them are well into mid level, which does track. You are cherry picking data permalink fedilink source parent [–] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) I didn’t make that claim, Im just sharing a helpful resource. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] socialsecurity@piefed.social 1 point 1 year ago Right I am aware of the dataset there and it doesn't support entry level 400k jobs though permalink fedilink source parent
[–] socialsecurity@piefed.social 1 point 1 year ago (4 children) Well link what you are talking about then, I don't see 400k entry level jobs permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] paequ2@lemmy.today 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) I didn't say exactly 400k. I said "make around that amount of money" My main point is that you shouldn't kill yourself for only 400k per year. Ask for much, much more. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] socialsecurity@piefed.social 1 point 1 year ago So looks like one guy with ML has a job like that rest of them are well into mid level, which does track. You are cherry picking data permalink fedilink source parent [–] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) I didn’t make that claim, Im just sharing a helpful resource. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] socialsecurity@piefed.social 1 point 1 year ago Right I am aware of the dataset there and it doesn't support entry level 400k jobs though permalink fedilink source parent
[–] paequ2@lemmy.today 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) I didn't say exactly 400k. I said "make around that amount of money" My main point is that you shouldn't kill yourself for only 400k per year. Ask for much, much more. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] socialsecurity@piefed.social 1 point 1 year ago So looks like one guy with ML has a job like that rest of them are well into mid level, which does track. You are cherry picking data permalink fedilink source parent
[–] socialsecurity@piefed.social 1 point 1 year ago So looks like one guy with ML has a job like that rest of them are well into mid level, which does track. You are cherry picking data permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) I didn’t make that claim, Im just sharing a helpful resource. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] socialsecurity@piefed.social 1 point 1 year ago Right I am aware of the dataset there and it doesn't support entry level 400k jobs though permalink fedilink source parent
[–] socialsecurity@piefed.social 1 point 1 year ago Right I am aware of the dataset there and it doesn't support entry level 400k jobs though permalink fedilink source parent