▲ 337 ▼ So much innocent victims for an all loving god (lemmy.ml) submitted 3 weeks ago by stemy@lemmy.ml to c/atheistmemes@lemmy.world 77 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 11 points 3 weeks ago (8 children) it's easier If you're all powerful, no it's not. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] CannonFodder@lemmy.world 5 points 3 weeks ago (6 children) God can be all powerful and lazy at the same time. I know I would be lazy if I were a god. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 7 points 3 weeks ago (2 children) There is no such thing as lazy when you are infinite. That's not how infinites work. All things are equally difficult and are as difficult as nothing. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] spankysalmon@fedinsfw.app 2 points 3 weeks ago That's not true. There are literally infinities that are infinitely bigger than other infinities. Mathematically. Some of these actually show up in how physics equations ended up being constructed. It's actually quite fascinating. Though the God of the Bible as Christians believe is... definitely an incongruent mess. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 1 point 3 weeks ago That's what I tell myself when I want a snack but am already comfortable in my spot. permalink fedilink source parent [+] eyelevel@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago* (3 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] CannonFodder@lemmy.world 1 point 3 weeks ago (2 children) Do gods, or the god need moral justification? That's not demonstrated much in the Bible afaik. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] peacepath@lemmy.world 1 point 3 weeks ago (1 child) If they want to be called "absolutely good" and claim being the one perfect justice, being moral would not be wrong... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] CannonFodder@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago Maybe they don't care what we call them? And I don't think there is a moral singularity; morality depends on perspective. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies) [–] cravl@slrpnk.net 1 point 3 weeks ago Bad argument. If God is omnipotent, then "easier" isn't a concept, it has no bearing on his actions whatsoever. If he is who he says he is, then he can and will do whatever is best in light of eternity. In the case of the flood (and the entire old testament really), it's all foreshadowing to Christ. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] CannonFodder@lemmy.world 5 points 3 weeks ago (6 children) God can be all powerful and lazy at the same time. I know I would be lazy if I were a god. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 7 points 3 weeks ago (2 children) There is no such thing as lazy when you are infinite. That's not how infinites work. All things are equally difficult and are as difficult as nothing. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] spankysalmon@fedinsfw.app 2 points 3 weeks ago That's not true. There are literally infinities that are infinitely bigger than other infinities. Mathematically. Some of these actually show up in how physics equations ended up being constructed. It's actually quite fascinating. Though the God of the Bible as Christians believe is... definitely an incongruent mess. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 1 point 3 weeks ago That's what I tell myself when I want a snack but am already comfortable in my spot. permalink fedilink source parent [+] eyelevel@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago* (3 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] CannonFodder@lemmy.world 1 point 3 weeks ago (2 children) Do gods, or the god need moral justification? That's not demonstrated much in the Bible afaik. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] peacepath@lemmy.world 1 point 3 weeks ago (1 child) If they want to be called "absolutely good" and claim being the one perfect justice, being moral would not be wrong... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] CannonFodder@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago Maybe they don't care what we call them? And I don't think there is a moral singularity; morality depends on perspective. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies)
[–] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 7 points 3 weeks ago (2 children) There is no such thing as lazy when you are infinite. That's not how infinites work. All things are equally difficult and are as difficult as nothing. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] spankysalmon@fedinsfw.app 2 points 3 weeks ago That's not true. There are literally infinities that are infinitely bigger than other infinities. Mathematically. Some of these actually show up in how physics equations ended up being constructed. It's actually quite fascinating. Though the God of the Bible as Christians believe is... definitely an incongruent mess. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 1 point 3 weeks ago That's what I tell myself when I want a snack but am already comfortable in my spot. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] spankysalmon@fedinsfw.app 2 points 3 weeks ago That's not true. There are literally infinities that are infinitely bigger than other infinities. Mathematically. Some of these actually show up in how physics equations ended up being constructed. It's actually quite fascinating. Though the God of the Bible as Christians believe is... definitely an incongruent mess. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 1 point 3 weeks ago That's what I tell myself when I want a snack but am already comfortable in my spot. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] eyelevel@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago* (3 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] CannonFodder@lemmy.world 1 point 3 weeks ago (2 children) Do gods, or the god need moral justification? That's not demonstrated much in the Bible afaik. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] peacepath@lemmy.world 1 point 3 weeks ago (1 child) If they want to be called "absolutely good" and claim being the one perfect justice, being moral would not be wrong... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] CannonFodder@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago Maybe they don't care what we call them? And I don't think there is a moral singularity; morality depends on perspective. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] CannonFodder@lemmy.world 1 point 3 weeks ago (2 children) Do gods, or the god need moral justification? That's not demonstrated much in the Bible afaik. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] peacepath@lemmy.world 1 point 3 weeks ago (1 child) If they want to be called "absolutely good" and claim being the one perfect justice, being moral would not be wrong... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] CannonFodder@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago Maybe they don't care what we call them? And I don't think there is a moral singularity; morality depends on perspective. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] peacepath@lemmy.world 1 point 3 weeks ago (1 child) If they want to be called "absolutely good" and claim being the one perfect justice, being moral would not be wrong... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] CannonFodder@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago Maybe they don't care what we call them? And I don't think there is a moral singularity; morality depends on perspective. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] CannonFodder@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago Maybe they don't care what we call them? And I don't think there is a moral singularity; morality depends on perspective. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] cravl@slrpnk.net 1 point 3 weeks ago Bad argument. If God is omnipotent, then "easier" isn't a concept, it has no bearing on his actions whatsoever. If he is who he says he is, then he can and will do whatever is best in light of eternity. In the case of the flood (and the entire old testament really), it's all foreshadowing to Christ. permalink fedilink source parent