▲ 339 ▼ Amazon uses AI surveillance to monitor union risk in UK warehouses // Internal documents suggest tech giant collects ‘hundreds of data points’ for ‘union-busting’ AI model (www.opendemocracy.net) submitted 3 weeks ago by Beep@feddit.online to c/technology@lemmy.world 27 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] yucandu@lemmy.world 14 points 3 weeks ago (5 children) Couldn't we all just agree to unionize anyway? permalink fedilink source hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] jumping_redditor@sh.itjust.works 7 points 3 weeks ago (2 children) you can, but the point of union busting (as I understand it) is to make it harder to get support/members permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 child) Burning down a toilet paper warehouse was always an option. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] willington@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 3 weeks ago* Unions became a thing in the USA after the fallout from the Battle of Blair Mountain. Sadly most West Virginians don't know their own history and are rabid boot lickers. My point is, before unions, if you had a problem with your boss, you would just shoot the boss. That was too much for the cappies, and they allowed unionism as a pressure release valve to avoid themselves getting shot. Now if people are unhappy they can hold signs in 100 degree weather and make noise. Much better than getting shot. permalink fedilink source parent [–] ParlimentOfDoom@piefed.zip 1 point 2 weeks ago They're trying to use this to identify those most likely to organize/join first so they can fire them before they do. That's the whole point, stopping it before they can even start permalink fedilink source parent [–] TeddE@lemmy.world 1 point 3 weeks ago No, we can't, that's literally what Union busting is - intentionally adding as much friction as possible to people agreeing on that very thing. Perhaps we would if we could but powerful forces work such that we can't, even if it could be argued we ought be allowed. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] jumping_redditor@sh.itjust.works 7 points 3 weeks ago (2 children) you can, but the point of union busting (as I understand it) is to make it harder to get support/members permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 child) Burning down a toilet paper warehouse was always an option. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] willington@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 3 weeks ago* Unions became a thing in the USA after the fallout from the Battle of Blair Mountain. Sadly most West Virginians don't know their own history and are rabid boot lickers. My point is, before unions, if you had a problem with your boss, you would just shoot the boss. That was too much for the cappies, and they allowed unionism as a pressure release valve to avoid themselves getting shot. Now if people are unhappy they can hold signs in 100 degree weather and make noise. Much better than getting shot. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 child) Burning down a toilet paper warehouse was always an option. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] willington@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 3 weeks ago* Unions became a thing in the USA after the fallout from the Battle of Blair Mountain. Sadly most West Virginians don't know their own history and are rabid boot lickers. My point is, before unions, if you had a problem with your boss, you would just shoot the boss. That was too much for the cappies, and they allowed unionism as a pressure release valve to avoid themselves getting shot. Now if people are unhappy they can hold signs in 100 degree weather and make noise. Much better than getting shot. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] willington@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 3 weeks ago* Unions became a thing in the USA after the fallout from the Battle of Blair Mountain. Sadly most West Virginians don't know their own history and are rabid boot lickers. My point is, before unions, if you had a problem with your boss, you would just shoot the boss. That was too much for the cappies, and they allowed unionism as a pressure release valve to avoid themselves getting shot. Now if people are unhappy they can hold signs in 100 degree weather and make noise. Much better than getting shot. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ParlimentOfDoom@piefed.zip 1 point 2 weeks ago They're trying to use this to identify those most likely to organize/join first so they can fire them before they do. That's the whole point, stopping it before they can even start permalink fedilink source parent
[–] TeddE@lemmy.world 1 point 3 weeks ago No, we can't, that's literally what Union busting is - intentionally adding as much friction as possible to people agreeing on that very thing. Perhaps we would if we could but powerful forces work such that we can't, even if it could be argued we ought be allowed. permalink fedilink source parent