President signed the legislation championed by late senator Lindsey Graham last month but has waived the restrictions as they were due to come into effect

Maybe "the West" no longer exists. There's just the US and then there's Europe, and each of them is doing their own thing.

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[+] -40 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (48 children)

Good. I definitely don't want to be part of Europe's racist little garden. I'll take any multipolar world order we can get, and I hope this doesn't change when Trump is gone soon. Fuck Europe.

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  • [–] 19 points 3 weeks ago (28 children)

    They're on .ml that usually means they're an insane tankie and best to just ignore them

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  • [+] -18 points 3 weeks ago (27 children)

    Is it a "tankie" position to demand the democratic right of self determination?

    Ukrainians are neofeudal corporate serfs under a fascist junta owned by Blackrock. All opposition parties are banned. All opposition media has been seized by the state. Men can't even leave to escape this Banderite death cult.

    Just an impossible victory or an inevitable death?

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  • [–] 10 points 3 weeks ago (6 children)

    Ukrainians are neofeudal corporate serfs under a fascist junta owned by Blackrock.

    I think you meant "Russians". Russians are neofeudal corporate serfs under a fascist junta owned by Putin. Which is why they're invading other countries and stealing their land and children and bringing them under authoritarian rule. Because nazis do what nazis do.

    You sound like you're neck deep in propaganda, my friend. You need deprogramming, but I don't have the skills for it.

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  • [+] -6 points 3 weeks ago (5 children)

    You're talking a sparsely populated nation with the same GDP as South Korea.

    Yeah, they're the problem. Sure. It couldn't be anything else. Right? Right? Right?

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  • [–] 4 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

    Probably why the the 3 day special operation is into its 4th year

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  • [–] -2 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

    And why the war has had the lowest civilian death rate than any major conflict in modern history. This is what a war of liberation looks like, not a war of annihilation.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 weeks ago

    Sitting on $75T of resources but they're too incompetent to do anything with it. Not surprising because it's a country of useless fascists who have dumbass cheer leaders like you.

    The world would be such a better place if they kept to themselves and their $75T treasure.

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  • [–] 5 points 3 weeks ago (1 child)

    Men can't leave because they were invaded by Russia.

    I love the democratic right of self determination, that's why I support the EU, the last democracy on earth.

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  • [–] -5 points 3 weeks ago

    Being tied to the land is serfdom. Slavery.

    No choice to sue for peace, just an impossible victory or inevitable death. Democracy is derived from the individual and nothing else, not religion, not race, not land, not arbitrary borders, not even nations.

    People have a right to exist, not nations.

    Fuck Ukraine. Fuck Israel. Fuck the U.S.

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  • [–] 4 points 3 weeks ago (17 children)

    As opposed to the based countries of Russia, China, etc, which have no feudal characteristics, political opposition is healthy and plentiful, have zero control of the media, and you can just say "no thanks" when you are called to fight

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  • [–] -3 points 3 weeks ago (16 children)

    Russia does not have compulsory conscription. Did you think that was true just based on your spoon fed propaganda? Is this an emotional truth for you?

    Russia and China are liberators and peacemakers, respectfully.

    Just in the Sahel, Russia is helping bring to a close centuries of unending colonialism by Europe and America.

    The unipolar world order is over, and I personally think it couldn't have come soon enough.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 weeks ago (15 children)

    Do you think the 600.000 soldiers and 13.000 civilians that have died so far in the war would agree with this sentiment? How is China a peacemaker while threatening their neighbors with war?

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  • [–] 1 point 3 weeks ago (14 children)

    There's actually far more soldier deaths, as the Discord Leaks showed. The Ukraine War is nothing but lies.

    But yes, so little civilian deaths is unheard of, and almost all from Ukraine's retribution on their own supposed people.

    China brokered peace between Saudi Arabia and Yemen before America and Israel arbitrarily attacked Iran, triggering Saudi attacks on Yemen. China has consistently pushed for mediation and diplomacy at the UN.

    America is out of control and needs to be stopped, and this didn't start with Trump.

    We currently arms over 80% of all dictatorships.

    America is the biggest threat to global democracy, security, and peace globally.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (13 children)

    Right, China is completely peaceful towards its neighbors, Japan, India, Taiwan and the Philippines have nothing but positive things to say. The aggressor Russia is doing nothing wrong, and all evidence to the contrary is fake → there is no point talking to you.

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  • [–] 0 points 3 weeks ago (12 children)

    Japan occupied China and committed genocide.

    Japan occupied the Philippines and committed genocide.

    Don't forget Korea, same thing.

    Taiwan is China, only occupied by a warlord after the war. China has patiently and peacefully waited for reunification.

    You seem to think China simply existing after all this is a threat.

    And same with Russia, every war with Russia has always come from Europe attacking it. Now is no different. And the reason is obvious, same reason we always attack someone.👇

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  • [–] 1 point 3 weeks ago* (11 children)

    Why do you say „You seem to think China simply existing after all this is a threat“? How could you possible arrive at that conclusion?

    And same with Russia, every war with Russia has always come from Europe attacking it. Now is no different. And the reason is obvious, same reason we always attack someone.

    Nah, I consider Russia a threat for attacking other countries, conducting hybrid warfare against European countries and threatening nuclear attacks multiple times.

    That weird statistic again, we haven’t attacked the US, Russia, Canada or Australia or China. Pick another hill.

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  • [–] -2 points 3 weeks ago (10 children)

    "Hybrid warfare" is your "It's coming right for us!" Give me a break.

    Millions of former Ukrainians stopped being "Ukrainian" the moment their democratically elected government was overthrown in a US bankrolled coup.

    Democracy is derived from the individual and nothing else, not race, not religion, not ethnicity, not arbitrary borders, and not even nations themselves.

    People have a right to exist, not nations.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 weeks ago (9 children)

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_hybrid_warfare https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_sabotage_operations_in_Europe

    Go ahead, read up on it.

    Democracy is derived from the individual

    Demos is literally people. A large group of people who form a nation have a right to uphold that nation. Logically, ethically, and judicially.

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  • [–] -4 points 3 weeks ago* (8 children)

    masturbatory gestures

    The people of the Donbass are also people. What's your point? Once a nation or border is established its somehow undemocratic to change that? People being tied to land is serfdom, feudalism. Land is tied to people.

    Mince words and gishgallop all day, a coup is a coup is a coup is a coup. And FFS, I'm older than "Ukraine".

    And even it's founding was undemocratic. The first Soviet Referendum saw almost unanimous consensus by all the Republics to stay in the USSR, INCLUDING UKRAINE.

    I guess it didn't go like Gorbachev wanted, so the pizzahut munching drunk imbecile threw it out.

    America has never once supported democracy that wasn't profitable to America's oligarchs, and always at the expense of the workers everywhere.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 weeks ago (7 children)

    The people of the Donbass are also people. What's your point? Once a nation or border is established its somehow undemocratic to change that?

    Dude, I don’t even know what to say. If you cannot see that a foreign power invading isn’t democratic, we don’t have the necessary base of principles to talk.

    People being tied to land is serfdom, feudalism. Land is tied to people.

    That is a highschoolers take on this topic, come on.

    And even it's founding was undemocratic. The first Soviet Referendum saw almost unanimous consensus by all the Republics to stay in the USSR, INCLUDING UKRAINE.

    That’s almost 40 years ago, what’s your point?

    America has never once supported democracy that wasn't profitable to America's oligarchs, and always at the expense of the workers everywhere.

    This is a non sequitur but at least we agree on that.

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  • [–] -2 points 3 weeks ago (6 children)

    So D-Day wasn't "democratic"? Fuck off.

    40 years. Yes. I'm older than "Ukraine".

    This is all you need to know about the West's adversarial nature toward Russia. Same reason as all of our wars.👇

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  • [–] 1 point 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (5 children)

    Right, Ukraine is comparable to the Nazi Regime that had conquered large parts of Europe and declared war on the US, and Ukraine being younger than you somehow justifies a war against it. It seems you’ve eaten up so much Russian propaganda, your brain is fried.

    America has never once supported democracy that wasn't profitable to America's oligarchs, and always at the expense of the workers everywhere.

    D-Day was democratic

    Make it make sense.

    And - seriously - what is your obsession with this stupid graph? This is like the 5th time you posted this, as if you expected this commonly known information somehow explains geopolitics.

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  • [–] 0 points 3 weeks ago* (4 children)

    Natural resources is the only reason we ever fight wars in the modern age.

    That's the thing. America never "defeated fascism". The Soviet Union defeated fascism. America swooped in to save fascism from beneath Soviet boots, and we've been fostering ever since.

    NATO is the Fourth Reich

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  • [–] 3 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

    Again, you’re victim to propaganda. The SU and GDR proclaimed stricter and swifter and better denazification, even built a anti-fascist-wall, but in reality they not only employed former NSDAP politicians, but even doctors who participated in euthanasia-programs of disabled children. They even helped them conceal their identity because it wouldn’t have the right look.

    And the Soviet Union had its own nuclear program with their own Nazi scientists.

    It was Realpolitik on both sides, stop ignoring one side’s faults because you like it more.

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  • [–] -1 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

    Nazi politicians and doctors? I'm calling bullshit. You made that up.

    Former Nazi scientists were taken at gunpoint and held as prisoners by the Soviets, then either repatriated to Germany or sent to prisons or executed for their crimes after all the information had been extracted.

    They sure as fuck weren't running their space program or going to Disneyland.

    You're a straight up Nazi apologist who can eat shit.

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  • [+] -19 points 3 weeks ago (15 children)

    Six centuries of never ending colonialism is not enough?

    They're just NOW getting rid of the CFA franc.

    Blue MAGA liberals just want things back the way they were.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 weeks ago (13 children)

    A military wannabe-dictator restricting Freedom of the press, rejecting democracy and weaving ties with Russia, awesome

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  • [–] -1 points 3 weeks ago (12 children)

    A liberal democracy is impossible under the conditions America and Europe imposes.

    They're just NOW getting rid of the CFA franc!

    America necessitates a strongman, elected or not, just to remain sovereign, just to keep us from taking all their natural resources and enslaving the nation as whole under neoliberal feudalism.

    For an American, you'd have to imagine omnipotent space invaders with an unstoppable armada to even begin to imagine what it's like to be a developing nation with natural resources today.

    We had the nerve to parade a black general in front of Congress to say that Traore is using the funds from gold mines he nationalized to "protect the junta". He spent them on an agricultural green revolution that has made Burkina Faso food independent. He's creating dams and irrigation canals, transforming them into a bread basket of the Sahel. He's given free tractors to farmers, built grain processing plants.

    Your rhetoric is such bullshit, especially when America arms over 80% of dictatorships globally. We are the LEAST democratic nation in the world for this reason alone. Democracy is not a universal principle to us, just a privilege you enjoy on the backs of the oppressed. It's only a selective cudgel weaponized to steal natural resources.

    Our not-so-proxy war with Russia is no different.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (11 children)

    Neither America nor Europe has the CFA-Franc-Zone. You are either thoroughly confused, blinded by hate, or a bot.

    You keep posting this resource graph as if people are claiming this was a war for resources and this was proof it’s all wrong - neither is true. The war is about restoring power, glory and perceived claim to once/former territory, which is worse, imo.

    I’m not defending colonialism or neoliberalism, btw.

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  • [–] 0 points 3 weeks ago (10 children)

    France is in Europe, Professor.

    America has been balls deep in the Sahel this whole time. The CIA was a participant in the murder of Thomas Sankara. WTF do you think the purpose of the Pentagon's AFRICOM is? Why did we have military bases there? Fighting terrorists that we're arming?

    You are absolutely defending necolonialism and neoliberalism. Every aspect of public institutions in a Ukraine has been systematically privatized and bought up by Blackrock. Look it up. Their grandchildren's grandchildren will still be paying off generational debt from predatory military and IMF loans.

    Annexation would make that disappear overnight.🫰💨 And that's the reason their corporate neofeudal lords refuse to let them sue for peace.

    Just let Ukrainians vote, FFS.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 weeks ago (9 children)

    France is also in the world, doesn’t mean everyone on the planet takes part in the CFA.

    Polls consistently show most Ukrainians reject giving up territory for peace. And “annexation makes the debt disappear” means the people being annexed lose their say entirely.

    Opposing neoliberalism and colonialism and opposing Russia’s invasion are not contradictory positions. I‘d argue you’re a hypocrite for wanting one colonial leftover gone, but another installed.

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  • [–] -3 points 3 weeks ago (8 children)

    No, just France's African serfs.

    Maybe I'm old fashioned, but I think the normal method for determining the democratic human right of self determination is actually VOTING.

    They can vote in Eurovision singing contests, but not for their government. Makes perfect sense. Sure. Yeah. Okay.

    You can't see it, but I'm making masturbatory motions with my hand.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 weeks ago* (7 children)

    So it’s France now, not Europa anymore? Progress, I suppose.

    I don’t know or care about the Eurovision Song Contest, but I do know that voting in Ukraine is halted during martial law, which was installed in case of a invasion by a foreign power - which makes sense. I’m on the line about this, actually, but I do love how you bring this up to critize it, but ignore Putins cling to power by manipulation and election fraud. You‘ll probably similarly defend the elections in the GDR, Soviet Union and North Korea.

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  • [–] -3 points 3 weeks ago (6 children)

    The clause you speak of was inserted into the constitution AFTER the coup led by the Svoboda controlled junta.

    It may also come as a shock that the coup was unconstitutional.

    Russia actually HAS elections. Putin is massively popular even by Western polling, and got more popular when he upheld Donbass and Crimean democratic secession militarily. The first democratic referendum in the Soviet Union saw almost every Republic choose to stay, INCLUDING UKRAINE.

    Gorbachev dissolved the entire Soviet Union against the democratic mandate of the people.

    The West only sees democracy as a cudgel to steal natural resources when it suits them. Democracy to you is just a selective privilege enjoyed on the backs of the oppressed.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 weeks ago (5 children)

    Doesn’t matter when the clause was introduced.

    Russia has elections like North Korea has elections. Putin might be popular, but so is Trump.

    Gorbachev dissolved the entire Soviet Union against the democratic mandate of the people.

    Didn’t you say Nations don’t have a right to exist, anyway?

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  • [–] -1 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

    I said that nations are based on the democratic mandate of the Individual, which was the referendum.

    You don't get to decide people "voted wrong". That's not democracy. That's empire.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (3 children)

    People have a right to exist, not nations.

    is what you said.

    I don’t decide people voted wrong, indeed. History looks at how elections were conducted, - and frankly, even common sense should point out - that people recently occupied by a foreign power usually do not get to vote freely and independently. Look at the annexation of Austria by Hitler. I think the Krim „referendum“ had only 95 or 97% approved instead of 99%, but you get the point.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 weeks ago (2 children)

    No, I don't get your point. A rushed referendum is sure as fuck better and more legitimate than any coup.

    You don't get to unring that bell. Sorry, not sorry.

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