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[–] sem@piefed.blahaj.zone 1 point 4 weeks ago (4 children)

These are both examples of systemic issues.

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[–] leftzero@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 4 weeks ago

Correct. The systemic issue being that people are assholes and shouldn't be allowed to operate vehicles near other people.

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[–] Ghoelian@piefed.social 0 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

What's the systemic issue? The only issue is people feel they have to get on their bike as soon as they get on their way, where they could just walk off the sidewalk and step on there. Which is maybe an extra 2 metres.

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[–] sem@piefed.blahaj.zone 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 child)

You might not be happy with the answer: infrastructure that forces bike riders to choose between riding their bike with pedestrians, or walk the bike to join the bike infrastructure.

You don't see car drivers having to share their infrastructure with pedestrians or vice versa.

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[–] Ghoelian@piefed.social 0 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

I think the systemic issue is just a lot of people being inconsiderate. Yes you have to choose. That should not be a problem for most people, as one of the choices is the obviously correct one, and the other is obviously illegal (even if it's practically unenforced, everyone knows you're not allowed to ride a bike on the sidewalk).

You don’t see car drivers having to share their infrastructure with pedestrians or vice versa.

Well yea, because cars don't fit on the sidewalk. And where they would, you often see barriers explicitly blocking cars, which are often installed because car drivers were ignoring laws and driving there anyway.

The issue is that's not really possible for bikes, because when you make something that blocks bikes from entering, it's going to block pedestrians as well. They are practically the same width.

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