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[–] 80 points 4 weeks ago (40 children)

Cities aren't loud, cars are loud.

If we didn't have cars, we'd have much less noise pollution, including the ufo sound.

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  • [–] 21 points 4 weeks ago (16 children)

    That UFO sound is so goddamn irritating as well. Could they not have picked something that sounded, I dunno, like a car? Why did it need to be a noise that no one would immediately recognize as a vehicle? And why are they all slightly different, it's not the electric motor noise, it's gotta be piped out speakers right, so they could/should all sound the same?

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  • [–] 2 points 4 weeks ago (4 children)

    I've heard one BMW that sounds exactly like a car engine. I think some brands allow you to choose.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

    Imagine if you could choose anything you want as the noise :D It would be hilarious, then horrible

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  • [–] 3 points 3 weeks ago* (1 child)

    you could with Tesla's, I read some news articles a few years back about the ada or some other government agency getting pissy about it and requiring them to prevent it.

    edit: https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/us-auto-agency-will-not-allow-ev-owners-pick-alert-sounds-2022-07-12/

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  • [–] -3 points 4 weeks ago (8 children)

    A quieter version of the backup beep would be better. Everyone all over the world knows what it means.

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  • [–] 7 points 4 weeks ago (5 children)

    You want that for slow forward driving? That's crazy. The whole city would be continously beeping in its harsh rythm.

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  • [–] 0 points 4 weeks ago* (4 children)

    It would be safer than making a noise people can’t identify and have a hard time finding the direction of.

    Make it as loud as the current ones, just interrupt it every second so it’s clearly a beep coming from something that could kill you.

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  • [–] 3 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

    Destroying the mental health of everyone around, especially local residents by non-stop multifold beeping is counter productive, especially as it takes only a short time for people learning the space electro sounds being deadly EVs approaching, that sound is of course also just as directional. If that were confusing (which I find that it is not and we do have already plenty of exposure with EVs here in Austria) one can standardise the sound but at no point does it have to be harsh beeping as if the whole city were one big non-stop construction site. It is not about the loudness, it is about the very feature you demand, that constant abruptness all the traffic noise pollution. That is mentally much more tiring than the existing sounds for EVs.

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  • [–] -1 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

    Alex from Technology Connections agrees with me so I’m not convinced.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

    Well, if you want to live in such an acoustic hell hole, you are welcome. I am happily not living in one and can easily hear slowly approaching EVs, at least any of the newer ones. Anyone who manages to hear ICE cars, can also hear those EVs. It is also really hard to mistake their sound for anything else, unless you are expecting being abducted by UFOs anytime now.

    Only those EVs are a problem that were produced before regulations requiring artificial sound at low speeds.

    PS: I am walking a fair share on my daily commute, so I do know that perspective, also in regards to EVs.

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  • [–] 4 points 4 weeks ago (11 children)

    I could hear and feel the subway from six stories up when I was in New York last month.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 weeks ago (9 children)

    So then it’s not just cars that make cities loud.

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  • [–] 0 points 3 weeks ago* (7 children)

    So it wasn’t delivery trucks and emergency vehicles waking me up every 30 minutes for three nights straight?

    You’re not going to pile people up like that and meet their needs and have it be quiet. It’s just not possible.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 weeks ago (6 children)

    They could be quieter if they didn't have to compete with cars. I don't know why you're defending cars so much. If you don't like noise, having fewer cars makes the city way quieter.

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  • [–] 0 points 3 weeks ago (5 children)

    I’m not defending cars. I’m hating on cities.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

    That explains it. I also don't like cities. Cities aren't for everyone -- especially when built for cars. Imagine how much quieter emergency vehicles could be if they didn't have to get through soundproofing of cars.

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  • [–] 0 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

    There would still be trucks and subways and speakers and just some rando shouting in the middle of the night.

    All of these have woken me up in a city, and cars never have unless they’re playing music.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 weeks ago (2 children)

    I can hear the woosh of highway traffic outside my window right now, and always -- it is an ever present roar. Not the sudden kind of noise that wakes you up, but kind that shortens your life.

    I don't have enough time to keep responding to your minimization of the noise of cars, but i wish you well.

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  • [–] 0 points 3 weeks ago (1 child)

    Not getting enough quality sleep also shortens your life.

    Best thing for everyone would be a Thanos Snap.

    Good luck.

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  • [–] -1 points 4 weeks ago (8 children)

    Cities are very loud with or without cars.

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  • [–] [S] 0 points 4 weeks ago (6 children)

    Name 3 other constant sound sources. Construction does not count.

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  • [–] -1 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

    Air conditioners, commercial refrigerators and transformers. If you interpreted this as an attack on your ideology that was a mistake it actually was an attack on your intellectual integrity.

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