โฒ 360 โผ Evidence that lemmy.ml weaponizes rule 1 to censor criticism of russia and china (lemmy.world) submitted 3 weeks ago by lithiumground@lemmy.world to c/fediverse@lemmy.world locked 293 comments fedilink hide all child comments ๐ฏ 1
[โ] rako@tarte.nuage-libre.fr -1 points 3 weeks ago (4 children) still not answering the question permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [โ] impairedimperator@lemmy.zip 3 points 3 weeks ago (3 children) You ever wonder why they specify that other instances can have their own political views and they'd like to see someone else run a liberal instance? It's because they have specific political views, and do not believe in the liberal notion of the right to self-determination and redress of grievances. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [โ] rako@tarte.nuage-libre.fr -3 points 3 weeks ago (2 children) That's your interpretation that is as valid as any. Another interpretation is that "liberal", especially from a US pov, maximizes individual liberty at the expense of collective welfare, defers quality of life to individuals rather than a responsibility of the group, and as such doesn't really care about you if you're not rich/famous/powerful. Liberalism also addresses grievances by blaming individuals and hiding them from public life, not doing much for the environment that made the problem happen in the first place. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [โ] impairedimperator@lemmy.zip 1 point 3 weeks ago (1 child) Yes, if you personally choose to define a term differently from how it is actually defined, then you can do that. Kinda pointless having a conversation with someone who means down when they say up tho. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [โ] rako@tarte.nuage-libre.fr 1 point 3 weeks ago I'm only looking at what self-avowed liberals are doing. I'm not changing definition, only following observed reality. permalink fedilink source parent
[โ] impairedimperator@lemmy.zip 3 points 3 weeks ago (3 children) You ever wonder why they specify that other instances can have their own political views and they'd like to see someone else run a liberal instance? It's because they have specific political views, and do not believe in the liberal notion of the right to self-determination and redress of grievances. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [โ] rako@tarte.nuage-libre.fr -3 points 3 weeks ago (2 children) That's your interpretation that is as valid as any. Another interpretation is that "liberal", especially from a US pov, maximizes individual liberty at the expense of collective welfare, defers quality of life to individuals rather than a responsibility of the group, and as such doesn't really care about you if you're not rich/famous/powerful. Liberalism also addresses grievances by blaming individuals and hiding them from public life, not doing much for the environment that made the problem happen in the first place. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [โ] impairedimperator@lemmy.zip 1 point 3 weeks ago (1 child) Yes, if you personally choose to define a term differently from how it is actually defined, then you can do that. Kinda pointless having a conversation with someone who means down when they say up tho. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [โ] rako@tarte.nuage-libre.fr 1 point 3 weeks ago I'm only looking at what self-avowed liberals are doing. I'm not changing definition, only following observed reality. permalink fedilink source parent
[โ] rako@tarte.nuage-libre.fr -3 points 3 weeks ago (2 children) That's your interpretation that is as valid as any. Another interpretation is that "liberal", especially from a US pov, maximizes individual liberty at the expense of collective welfare, defers quality of life to individuals rather than a responsibility of the group, and as such doesn't really care about you if you're not rich/famous/powerful. Liberalism also addresses grievances by blaming individuals and hiding them from public life, not doing much for the environment that made the problem happen in the first place. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [โ] impairedimperator@lemmy.zip 1 point 3 weeks ago (1 child) Yes, if you personally choose to define a term differently from how it is actually defined, then you can do that. Kinda pointless having a conversation with someone who means down when they say up tho. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [โ] rako@tarte.nuage-libre.fr 1 point 3 weeks ago I'm only looking at what self-avowed liberals are doing. I'm not changing definition, only following observed reality. permalink fedilink source parent
[โ] impairedimperator@lemmy.zip 1 point 3 weeks ago (1 child) Yes, if you personally choose to define a term differently from how it is actually defined, then you can do that. Kinda pointless having a conversation with someone who means down when they say up tho. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [โ] rako@tarte.nuage-libre.fr 1 point 3 weeks ago I'm only looking at what self-avowed liberals are doing. I'm not changing definition, only following observed reality. permalink fedilink source parent
[โ] rako@tarte.nuage-libre.fr 1 point 3 weeks ago I'm only looking at what self-avowed liberals are doing. I'm not changing definition, only following observed reality. permalink fedilink source parent