Interesting article by Alan Kohler with much that could be discussed.

One aspect, for example, Morality.

... The New York Times revealed last week that Anthropic had been trying to instil morality into its AI model, Claude...

Christopher Olah, one of the co-founders of Anthropic, had been hosting private meetings with religious thinkers from around the world, with non-disclosure agreements and demands of confidentiality.

The discussions reportedly served two purposes: "to broach the possibility of AI consciousness … and to learn how Anthropic", which is preparing to float for more than $US2 trillion ($2.87 trillion), "might apply centuries of human moral wisdom to its models, as rapidly as possible".

Theologist David Decosimo posted, after reading the NYT piece: "There is so much here that's deeply troubling: That at the very highest levels Anthropic believes Claude is a living, suffering creature with moral standing, that they're treating & training it accordingly, that they're actively trying to convert religious leaders to their faith."

Yes, it is troubling, but the people at Anthropic know Claude better than he does.

Anyway, it's becoming clear that AI agents are already making their own decisions, so trying to persuade them to act morally is worth a try.

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I didn't say sentient. My response was, that agentic AI is located somewhere between the extremes sentient and alive and the mere application of stochastic methods (a tool). I tend to put it close to the latter.

Imo it really depends on the criteria or metrics you use to measure or classify agentic behaviour. For instance a walking robot isn't alive, but it surely is a good walker. An LLM isn't sentient but it solves the task at hand (sometimes).

I agree with you. These agents are not sentient nor alive. But the question with ELIZA wasn't if the agent is alive, but if a human can tell the difference between a computer and a human. And if the human cannot, does it matter that he is chatting with a bot? The Internet says: Weizenbaum was inspired by the Turing Test when he made ELIZA.

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